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re: Trump plans EO for Historically Black Colleges....

Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:23 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:23 am to
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Sounds small-government to me!

when has Trump ever been accused of being "small government"?

he's basically Bill Clinton
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:27 am to
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“It’s not fair that in the last 24 hours, Trump and his cabinet has generated more goodwill between the White House and black colleges than Obama was disinclined to even feign in three commencement speeches and eight national HBCU week conferences?—?none of which he attended,” Carter Jr. wrote on Saturday.
Ouch! That's gotta sting!
Posted by cahoots
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:29 am to
All we know is that trump allegedly has an EO that has to do with HBCUs. There is nothing to talk about.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:31 am to
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Why is it not fair?


Crappy quote from the crappy original article. The jist is basically that it's unfair that it took so many decades for a President to finally pay attention to HBCU's (especially after just having 8 years under a President who is black).
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It’s not fair that even if Trump creates a windfall for HBCUs, that it still may not be enough to effectively chip away at the damage of underfunding, biased media coverage and neglect over the course of years.

HBCUs need and want Trump’s support. Trump wants and needs to earn the support of Black America. And in the scope of American political culture, we may never see stranger bedfellows generate a more positive outcome for the nation’s history of race relations and minority progress.

But given from whence we’ve come over the last 152 years since the abolition of slavery, 53 years since the passage of the Civil Rights Act, eight years since Obama’s first historic election, and the 48 hours since Trump threw open the White House doors on HBCU engagement, none of this seems fair.

It never has and never will. But fair or not, we need this now more than ever.


THIS is what's wrong with America, this sense of entitlement. You spend years trying to get something, you finally get it and instead of being thankful the attitude is "it's about fricking time and it's better than nothing". Talk about turning a positive into a negative.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:34 am to
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when has Trump ever been accused of being "small government"?
I don't know. You should ask all the "small government conservatives" around here who voted for him.
Posted by TiptonInSC
Aiken, SC
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:35 am to
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Jarrett Carter Jr., an HBCU advocate, wrote on HBCU Digest that Trump might be able to accomplish more in regards to higher education for black students than President Obama was able to do during his entire tenure.




Able or just didn't do?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:35 am to
i know this may sound shocking for some liberal-leaning people, but conservatives sometimes support people and not ideas
Posted by Vacherie Saint
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:37 am to
How long before liberals label this as "academic hot sauce" thereby admitting their double standards?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:38 am to
it's certainly going to be interesting

if Trump really does open up the gravy train for minority causes, will their values/political identification trump their desire for money?
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50411 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:40 am to
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Oh, so handouts? Sounds small-government to me!


The fear from the left on this is great.

If blacks in this country finally realize you and your ilk have been using them as a political tool for decades, your party is close to being done.

I love this reaction. LOVE IT.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25248 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:40 am to
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if Trump really does open up the gravy train for minority causes, will their values/political identification trump their desire for money?


Are you really suggesting that African Americans would work against their own self-interest to make a point? That's asinine. It may not make a difference in how they vote, but they will certainly take the help.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:41 am to
a tweet from Trump saying he's going to take UC-Berkeley funding and pump it into HBCUs would be incredible
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33599 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:41 am to
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i know this may sound shocking for some liberal-leaning people, but conservatives sometimes support people and not ideas
The presence of hypocrisy is not shocking to me at all.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:41 am to
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Are you really suggesting that African Americans would work against their own self-interest to make a point?

i have no idea. i'm sure some would and some would not

it would just be amazing to watch a GOP President do this so blatantly

again, a "hot sauce" moment
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112740 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:41 am to
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I hate this pandering bullshite. Schools like Grambling are shitty and don't deserve to be propped up.


don't forget southern new orleans and their 4% graduation rate
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:42 am to
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The presence of hypocrisy is not shocking to me at all.

no no no

they evolved
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33599 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:42 am to
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The fear from the left on this is great.

If blacks in this country finally realize you and your ilk have been using them as a political tool for decades, your party is close to being done.

I love this reaction. LOVE IT.
Nothing would make me happier than the appearance of a rational republican party which could attract blacks in large numbers.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:42 am to
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don't forget southern new orleans and their 4% graduation rate

that saga was so fricking sad
Posted by ladyluckUGA
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:45 am to
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he's going to take UC-Berkeley funding and pump it into HBCUs



liberals' heads exploding in 3,2....
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112740 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:45 am to
I think as much as Jindal put all of his eggs into the presidential race basket, a big part of his last term was realizing that shite just won't change here.
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