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re: Trump on FOX - we're doing away with federal air traffic control

Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:38 am to
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:38 am to
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He should make food stamps the responsibility of the grocery stores too


True. Easily done as well, let customers donate to a food stamp fund if they wish and let grocery stores distribute it as they see fit.

Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:40 am to
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Man, honestly this scares the shite out of me. One frick up means hundreds of deaths.



And hundreds of millions in lawsuits. Who do you think wants the passengers to be safer, the government or the airline?
Posted by thomass
Member since Jan 2014
3526 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:40 am to
Air traffic controllers monitor commercial air planes so they don't collide. I don't think they have time to be lazy.
Posted by Loungefly85
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2016
7930 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:40 am to
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Didn't Reagan fire them all once?


One of my old teachers was one of the scabs that didn't strike. He was no dummy.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:42 am to
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And hundreds of millions in lawsuits. Who do you think wants the passengers to be safer, the government or the airline?


Id bet money that whatever company does this is indemnified to, except in cases of gross negligence or some such, which by the way you can sue the FAA over currently. Absolutely if one of their air traffic controllers was say high on the job and his actions caused an accident, you could sue him personally and the FAA.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:45 am to
Just wondering if this will lead to private security at airports and do away with government TSA employees? Talking about saving some government money.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68471 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:46 am to
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Man, honestly this scares the shite out of me. One frick up means hundreds of deaths.

This isn't any different than today
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Member since Dec 2009
43916 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:51 am to
Now he needs to privatize the TSA as well.
Posted by DevilDogTiger
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Member since Nov 2007
6563 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:53 am to
The biggest win out of all this is the newer technology being implemented causing the standards of separation to be reduced.

ETA and maybe we will start hiring controllers based on merit again.
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 11:56 am
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:56 am to
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Just wondering if this will lead to private security at airports and do away with government TSA employees? Talking about saving some government money.


That would be my next step.


I argue for an active military presence in airports, coupled with private security doing the screening.
Posted by Jeff Boomhauer
Arlen, TX
Member since Jun 2016
3598 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:59 am to



Instead of auto wreck ambulance chasers we will see much more of these commercials


edit: also the union argument is a good one. The ATC union boss would be the most powerful person in the country within a decade. If you want to shut down the US just put the ATC on strike and ground all flights
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 12:02 pm
Posted by Sidicous
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Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:01 pm to
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One of my old teachers was one of the scabs that didn't strike. He was no dummy.


One of my roomies at LaTech was a fired ATC. He went into the Commercial Aviation Program only to get about 1/2 dozen DUI's his senior year. Last time I talked to him he was asking opinions on making a couple of "treetop level" flights to/from South America so he could pay back the student loans for his flight time (he had about $60k in 1985-6 dollars of Student Loans).
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:05 pm to
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Air travelers could be on the hook to cover 20 to 29 percent higher costs if the U.S. moves to a private air traffic control (ATC) organization funded through “user fees,” according to a new study released today by Delta Air Lines.


So people that use the service are going to be charged instead of all the tax payers?

Works for me.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68471 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:05 pm to
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If you want to shut down the US just put the ATC on strike and ground all flights

A federal judge could make them fly and they would have to comply
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50808 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:09 pm to
Now, if he ALSO gets rid of TSA checkpoint idiots and replaces it with private industry.....

Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:10 pm to
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So people that use the service are going to be charged instead of all the tax payers?

Works for me.


I'd be willing to bet that this would end up not saving any money though, the idiots in Congress will find somewhere to spend that money.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28602 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:11 pm to
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Not sure this is a good idea


Yeah...what if they had been unionized airline employees when they went on strike?
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:12 pm to
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the idiots in Congress will find somewhere to spend that money.


Oh, no doubt. We aren't getting a refund. Hell, they will probably try to sign a subsidy bill that increases payments to the airlines.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:12 pm to
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Not sure this is a good idea


We have resources to jump in/back them up, if ever we need to
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:14 pm to
You all know at the first incident they will be calling for Trumps head
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