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re: Trump no longer cares about re-election

Posted on 6/26/20 at 2:05 pm to
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/26/20 at 2:05 pm to
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I fricking adore reading stuff like this. It reaffirms my belief that liberals are the dumbest, most dishonest motherfrickers on the planet.
_Proof of that is his abandoned pos thread from earlier.
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
46182 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 2:07 pm to
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bullshite

He's just unwilling to get out there and control the message. Or he's too incompetent to do it.

How is it bullshite? He can make recommendations. He can pass along numbers. Beyond that, it is up to the states to govern themselves. Sure as he tried to do something at the federal level, y'll'd be bitching about government over-reach and states' rights.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47553 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 2:09 pm to
Trump has NEVER "controlled the narrative" and he just played to an audience of 12 million.

But hes in hiding.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11844 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 2:09 pm to
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He can make recommendations. He can pass along numbers. Beyond that, it is up to the states to govern themselves.


The White House released a national plan. They urged states to adopt it. They abandoned it. They've abdicated responsibility.
This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 2:11 pm
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
46182 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 2:10 pm to
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I don't see any mobilization on any level of Trump voters to keep this shite from happening.

Why the frick would I mobilize and say I'm voting for Trump? I need my job and I'd surely lose it if I said I was voting for him. I just keep my mouth shut, do my job, go about my life and vote on the things I want to vote for. I don't need to answer polls or shout my voting from the rooftops.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47553 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 2:11 pm to
No they haven't. STFU.

You want POTUS to unilaterally force states to implement federal guidance now? Go on record.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173558 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 2:13 pm to
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How is it bullshite? He can make recommendations. He can pass along numbers. Beyond that, it is up to the states to govern themselves. Sure as he tried to do something at the federal level, y'll'd be bitching about government over-reach and states' rights.


I'm more referring to what was said in the OP

Why is he so inept at getting information out to the general voting public? He's the president. It's not like he doesn't have a platform.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
90039 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 2:13 pm to
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So that's not a good indication that he's in a position to win the election

In fact every data point that we have right now says he is toast

He has a lot of ground to make up and not a lot of time to do it



everything is propaganda right now
we are being bombarded with it

all of these "data points" are horse shite meant to shape opinion, not measure it

we vote November 3, 2020

today is June 26, 2020

the silent majority runs deep


no way to judge or measure anything right now

FTR
Trump 62,984,828 in 2016
Clinton 65,853,514 in 2016

55.7% voter turnout in 2016

so ask yourself, will the increase in Anti-Trump faction in 2020 increase the voter turnout enough to overcome voter indifference to a terrible candidate in Biden?

I say no, the DNC is not currently unified, the country is not behind Biden and they are splintering into factions

I believe we have HIGHER voter turnout for Trump and lower voter turnout for Biden and not only does Trump win re-election, he wins the popular vote

but we wont know that until November 4
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22695 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

How is it bullshite? He can make recommendations. He can pass along numbers. Beyond that, it is up to the states to govern themselves. Sure as he tried to do something at the federal level, y'll'd be bitching about government over-reach and states' rights.


You guys argue in circles.

Yes or No - is the upcoming election one of the most (if not the most) important presidential election in history given the marxist/socialist hell we'll be subjected to with a Biden administration + Dem control of Congress?

If you answer no, then we're good here. The presidency isn't all that important or powerful, and that explains why Trump is impotent in dealing with COVID and the so-called insurrection.

But if you answered yes, what difference do you think a second term will make when you clearly believe Trump/his office is incapable of doing frick all because in reality, it's all up to Governors and Mayors?

You guys are walking contradictions.
Posted by Spyhunter3
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2020
370 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 2:16 pm to
You make no sense you chicken little. His attention span and the virus numbers aren't getting him elected nor beaten. He is also not part of the lying swamp. He shares good news when need be. Otherwise, he doesn't sugarcoat anything outside of the economy. He knows these are bad times for all of us.

Go take a Midol.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39836 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 2:16 pm to
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So true. Big Scrub is genuinely bent out of shape that Trump isn't owning the moment and putting Biden away for good.
I am. What makes you think anything to the contrary?
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11844 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 2:17 pm to
Every country in the world handling this pandemic well has a central health authority directing the response.

Trump tried it, but couldn't bear being upstaged by Fauci and wanted to be able to demagogue the issue by going after Democratic state governors by haranguing them to "liberate their states".

Dude is a straight-up quitter.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
90039 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

Why is he so inept at getting information out to the general voting public?


dude WTF is wrong with you? the MSM takes his direct quotes and lies about them

why are you acting like everything we are being force fed in the MSM is genuine? They are at war with the POTUS, wake up
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39836 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 2:17 pm to
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If he doesn't win re-election, you can bet the deep state is going to charge him in 2021. So he has every incentive to win re-election to prevent the deep state from trying to put him in jail.
This is actually a decent point, which makes his recent lagging all the more concerning.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47553 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 2:18 pm to
You aren't answering the question.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11844 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 2:21 pm to
There were a bunch of national plans from conservative think tanks, libs, non-partisan. They're all better than what we have. Pick one and go!
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47553 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 2:23 pm to
You still aren't answering the question.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39836 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 2:28 pm to
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dude WTF is wrong with you? the MSM takes his direct quotes and lies about them

why are you acting like everything we are being force fed in the MSM is genuine? They are at war with the POTUS, wake up
I explicitly acknowledged the terrain: the media will be dishonest. That's why it's even MORE important to have a good dissemination strategy.

From the beginning, Trump let the epidemiologists run riot. He should have (and I said this in real time, not with 20/20 hindsight) also promoted an economist and an ethicist to counter-balance the message being told purely through the lens of the epidemiologists. Literally, those other folks should have had at least as much stage time.

But it was crazy hectic then and we had way less info. So let's allow a reset.

At present, we know that daily death count has plummeted while infections have vastly increased. It's arguably a few days too early to really be celebrating, but if this trend holds, that is about the best news we could have hoped for. It means the old/vulnerable are successfully self-isolating (without government mandates) and it means the "herd" is fast getting infected and without much negative effect.


Now, the average (even above-average) American simply is ignorant of what I just typed. I know this because every headline blares the nominal infection rate and case count as the lede. Even publications that are more trustworthy seem simply incapable of packaging the facts into a digestible summary of what is actually going on.

Therefore, it is TRUMP'S JOB to do this for the media. I don't give a shite whether it's fair or supposed to be in his job description or whatever. I don't want any excuses. I want the republican POTUS to maximize his chances of re-election by not simply ceding the message to the media.

There's any number of ways to do it, but if he were at all competent, he could spread the above message far and wide - and with the help of trusted scientists and other figures.

Yes, as you said - it's a war. SO START frickING SHOOTING BACK
This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 2:32 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39836 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 2:30 pm to
Why is this thread anchored?
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11844 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 2:33 pm to
If it's a credible plan, sure. There are a handful that any state should be agreeable to implement.
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