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re: Trump Needs an EO Banning Transitioning Kids on Day One

Posted on 11/12/24 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 12:54 pm to
At some point you’ll have to actually read what I post.

Or not.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 12:54 pm to
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Well, the next elected Democrat will just reverse it, and give his own EOs that allow child mutilation.


You act like Democrats have not been utilizing EOs to push their agenda already...

He can cut funding with an EO to stop what it happening then push for legislation... If Congress refuses to act then it is on them...
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 12:57 pm to
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You act like Democrats have not been utilizing EOs to push their agenda already...
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No.

Obama filed a shite load of EOs.

Trump undid a shitload of EOs and filed his own'

Biden came un and undid a lot of Trumps EOs and threw a few of his own in.

Do you see how this goes when you govern by pen and not constitution?
Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
24294 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 1:35 pm to
No he should do it so places like NY,CA and Min just to make them take him to court and defend their crazy arse take. Just expose them.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 1:35 pm to
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Do you see how this goes when you govern by pen and not constitution?


You forgot all of Bush's EOs?

Like I said, you are not looking at any of this in a realistic manner...
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298927 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 1:41 pm to
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You forgot all of Bush's EOs?


Wait til you see what FDR and Wilson did

Woodrow Wilson (D)
Total 1,803

Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
Total 3,721
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55439 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 1:43 pm to
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And frick you.
Yes sir, Mr. Bass.
Posted by AcadieAnne
Space Force Cadet 1st Class
Member since May 2019
1832 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:01 pm to
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How many transitions are actually being performed?


The OP said 14,000 children were transitioned in the last 5 years. "It never happens" is a lie.

Dr. Eithan Haim, a whistleblower, states that Texas Children's Hospital has performed hundreds of procedures on children even after the Texas state law banning this child abuse went into effect.

In any case, 1 is too many.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:04 pm to
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If there’s medical Lysenkoism going on (and that’s exactly what this is). And medical organizations are using Federal funds (and they are) to criminally maim minors (and that’s what’s happening), then a temporary EO is perfectly defensible while also starting legislation to buttress the EO.


This.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134605 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:08 pm to
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He's not a king, as disgusting as I find the acts, he needs to work with congress to put laws in place.



Is it not already against the law to mutilate and harm children?
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
7837 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:09 pm to
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In any case, 1 is too many.


I don’t disagree

I’m just saying, he needs to go about this shite the right way and read the room. Maybe really look at the polls.

It could be the kind of thing where the media may just abandon the trans shite altogether if they think it’s unpopular enough.

I just don’t want it to be all wasted in 4 years if he pisses enough people off by going about too many things with an EO.

Being right in a short term solution is not worth losing the election in 2028 if it means all of it will be for nothing
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23718 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:11 pm to
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At some point you’ll have to actually read what I post.

Or not


LoL... I was thinking the same thing. Your post said, "as Congress passes legislation to buffer the EO".
Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
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Member since May 2004
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:14 pm to
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If there’s medical Lysenkoism going on Well, the next elected Democrat will just reverse it, and give his own EOs that allow child mutilation. Thats exactly how it will work. Right now we're still undoing and redoing Obama's EOs.


If you kept reading he literally said use the EO to shut it down and follow up with congress.
Posted by AcadieAnne
Space Force Cadet 1st Class
Member since May 2019
1832 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:23 pm to
Definitely. We're on the same page. EO's aren't worth the paper they're written on. The next guy that comes along can undo them with the stroke of a pen (or at least, should be able to; it's worked that way up until Trump tried to undo some of 0baama's bullshite in his first term).

A survey by the company Blueprint found that the majority of swing state voters' #1 issue was the transgender nonsense.

All I'm saying is it's a bigger problem than most people realize. Congress needs to get on this asap.
Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
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Member since May 2004
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:25 pm to
You are making a mountain out of a mole hill. Executive Orders are fine as long as they are followed up with congressional support. Hell some presidents issued over a 1,000 EO’s and FDR over like 3700. I’m not saying that’s great but Obama, Trump and Biden have all used far less.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41727 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:29 pm to
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just don’t want it to be all wasted in 4 years if he pisses enough people off by going about too many things with an E


Is there an option where libs aren’t pissed off? I don’t think so.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128773 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 3:17 pm to
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The OP said 14,000 children were transitioned in the last 5 years. "It never happens" is a lie.

Not only that. The medical procedures are part of the catalyst for the literally hundreds of thousands of kids who are being psychologically transitioned.

In some school districts, we’re seeing 20-30% of middle schoolers identifying as “non-binary.” Remove the profit motive for it, and those numbers will decrease. We have hundreds of thousands of kids facing irreversible damage. It’s not the time to sacrifice those kids on the purity of “limited government.”
This post was edited on 11/12/24 at 3:18 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128773 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 3:20 pm to
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It could be the kind of thing where the media may just abandon the trans shite altogether if they think it’s unpopular enough.


Transgenderism isn’t being driven by a whim. Transgender studies is to gender what critical race theory is to race.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89725 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 3:21 pm to
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Well, the next elected Democrat will just reverse it, and give his own EOs that allow child mutilation.


This is a losing issue.

Trumps biggest ad was kamala is for they/them trump is for you.

The democrats are really going to struggle because they painted themselves in this corner on the issue.


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