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re: Trump Gave Power to Fauci-How to Rationalize
Posted on 9/1/23 at 11:38 pm to ChexMix
Posted on 9/1/23 at 11:38 pm to ChexMix
You’re still not arguing or presenting any real points. This is the party of common sense, yet you can’t come up with anything other than insults and distractions. Biden would be proud!
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 11:41 pm to blueboxer1119
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We are having "these discussions" because they matter when choosing a Presidential candidate, especially a guy who is nearing 80 and crapped the bed in his last year as President.
Trump is going to be the nominee if he's breathing.
Does it matter who the democrat nominee is? Is there one you would vote for in the general?
So your choice is Trump or groomer.
Period.
For that matter Trump is past life expectancy, is obese, and his 2 brothers have already died of natural causes (his Dad died of Alzheimers btw which is comforting considering Trump's age).
Trump has zero votes right now. If he is the nominee a year or so from now at the RNC then I will support him. In the meantime we have a much better option.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 11:41 pm to Patriot2023
I’d only like to know exactly how you rationalize to yourself the mental image of what you think the situation was, as described in your OP. You’re either a state record drama queen, a spoon-chest liar, a runaway imagination, or you’re trolling and I’m a sizzle chest mark. Believe it or not, I’m pulling for the last thing.
This post was edited on 9/1/23 at 11:43 pm
Posted on 9/1/23 at 11:42 pm to blueboxer1119
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Trump is going to be the nominee if he's breathing. Does it matter who the democrat nominee is? Is there one you would vote for in the general? So your choice is Trump or groomer.
This is almost exactly what Biden supporters say. You have no rationalization for this, nor any arguments, so you just basically are saying that you agree with me, that it’s hopeless, and that we should just vote from Trump because.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 11:45 pm to davyjones
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I’d only like to know exactly how you rationalize to yourself the mental image of what you think the situation was, as described in your OP.
Trump did this
Posted on 9/1/23 at 11:54 pm to Patriot2023
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Who gave Pence power?
The voters, and Trump cant fire him
Are you 13?
Posted on 9/1/23 at 11:56 pm to Patriot2023
He set Fauci up. Just give it time
Posted on 9/1/23 at 11:57 pm to RobbBobb
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The voters, and Trump cant fire him Are you 13?
So just to be clear, you’re saying that Trump didn’t decide to nominate Pence as his VP?
Posted on 9/1/23 at 11:59 pm to LSUCap
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He set Fauci up. Just give it time
Please explain.
Posted on 9/2/23 at 12:05 am to Patriot2023
Technically Fauci made all the calls on Covid( about all of it). Fauci also got busted lying about all of it and his day will come. Give it time, things are getting wilder because when you back a rat into the corner they go nuts. Think about all these charges against Trump, then they tried to get his name off the ballet…. It didn’t work. That shite got thrown out so fast, just like the rest of this BS. Everything is coming out and Rats will start to jump ship and rat on each other.
Posted on 9/2/23 at 12:07 am to Patriot2023
I am catching some vibes of authenticity here, but I’m not so sure that’s necessarily a good thing. And does it really matter anything I say? No way Josè. If I were to say something tho it would be that you’re (and many, many others, to be fair to you) overstate that thing to a factor of 10. Those were more or less participation trophies for jo less than 20 individuals who actively participated in Trump’s Warp Speed which while an unfortunate situation, it was an unavoidable mission and Trump did exceed all expectations in that regard.
I digress. Again, participation trophy, Fauci was one of many - no singled out recognition, and while we’re at it I bet no one can even come up with credible evidence that there was even any special ceremony involved. Prove me wrong.
I digress. Again, participation trophy, Fauci was one of many - no singled out recognition, and while we’re at it I bet no one can even come up with credible evidence that there was even any special ceremony involved. Prove me wrong.
Posted on 9/2/23 at 12:08 am to LSUCap
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Technically Fauci made all the calls on Covid( about all of it). Fauci also got busted lying about all of it and his day will come. Give it time, things are getting wilder because when you back a rat into the corner they go nuts. Think about all these charges against Trump, then they tried to get his name off the ballet…. It didn’t work. That shite got thrown out so fast, just like the rest of this BS. Everything is coming out and Rats will start to jump ship and rat on each other.
If I’m to believe this, then you’re either saying that Trump went along with this or he was tricked into allowing this. How does this get explained to independents and younger Republicans?
Posted on 9/2/23 at 12:15 am to davyjones
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I am catching some vibes of authenticity here, but I’m not so sure that’s necessarily a good thing. And does it really matter anything I say? No way Josè. If I were to say something tho it would be that you’re (and many, many others, to be fair to you) overstate that thing to a factor of 10. Those were more or less participation trophies for jo less than 20 individuals who actively participated in Trump’s Warp Speed which while an unfortunate situation, it was an unavoidable mission and Trump did exceed all expectations in that regard. I digress. Again, participation trophy, Fauci was one of many - no singled out recognition, and while we’re at it I bet no one can even come up with credible evidence that there was even any special ceremony involved. Prove me wrong.
You’re the only person so far to actually try to come up with an explanation. I appreciate this. However, if Trump just went along with this, even ceremoniously, then why did he agree to shut the country down? I’ve never seen anything like this before, nor has anyone else. Doesn’t the idea that he was tricked make him weak and dumb? If he wasn’t tricked, then he went along with it-how does this make him anything more than THE ESTABLISHMENT? I can’t find answers for this.
This post was edited on 9/2/23 at 12:20 am
Posted on 9/2/23 at 12:45 am to Patriot2023
We have vastly, very vastly differing views of this. Trump did actually have to “go along with” something, but massively different reasons. I know my mind could never be changed on it, no matter what. Or I suppose it would if the big cheese himself told me different.
As short as I can manage, his overarching priority throughout the whole thing was life support and then rehabilitation of the economy. Economy - his main priority, and that may sound cold-blooded to certain folks maybe because obviously that means human safety from the murderous virus, as it was advertised by media and leftist heathens. Anyhow, I’d bet Trump had that attitude because unbeknownst to you all, he operated under his personal beliefs on it based on much info and things we weren’t privy to. And those personal beliefs were likely vastly more skeptical than some of would credit him for. May well have even be completely aware of the nefarious nature of all that was going on. Was between a severe rock and hard place though.
But the President can’t up and declare the whole thing bullshite, not in a country with 330 million all of whom at some point watched some media source updates on it, and we all know what that saId. And yes, I’ve heard much ado here on this board from folks who claim to have known exactly what we know now, on day one.
Seriously.
Dear Lord please help me wrap this up soon. Anyway so frightened people were by far the majority and weren’t likely to change anytime soon, whole the day one know it alls were the clear minority.
Next, what does the economy need a lot of to survive? People participating and lots of them. But wait! The people were very leery of going out amongst one another and participating in the economy - not good for his top priority Trump’s thinking. The concept of a vaccine making that majority of people comfortable enough to venture back out and get back in the economy was the best realistic solution. And if it didn’t come quickly enough, the economy may have eventually passed away. If it was quickly we had to have, Trump did it in record breaking, unprecedented time and fashion. Longest post ever, I know. May need to break it up over two days.
As short as I can manage, his overarching priority throughout the whole thing was life support and then rehabilitation of the economy. Economy - his main priority, and that may sound cold-blooded to certain folks maybe because obviously that means human safety from the murderous virus, as it was advertised by media and leftist heathens. Anyhow, I’d bet Trump had that attitude because unbeknownst to you all, he operated under his personal beliefs on it based on much info and things we weren’t privy to. And those personal beliefs were likely vastly more skeptical than some of would credit him for. May well have even be completely aware of the nefarious nature of all that was going on. Was between a severe rock and hard place though.
But the President can’t up and declare the whole thing bullshite, not in a country with 330 million all of whom at some point watched some media source updates on it, and we all know what that saId. And yes, I’ve heard much ado here on this board from folks who claim to have known exactly what we know now, on day one.
Seriously. Dear Lord please help me wrap this up soon. Anyway so frightened people were by far the majority and weren’t likely to change anytime soon, whole the day one know it alls were the clear minority.
Next, what does the economy need a lot of to survive? People participating and lots of them. But wait! The people were very leery of going out amongst one another and participating in the economy - not good for his top priority Trump’s thinking. The concept of a vaccine making that majority of people comfortable enough to venture back out and get back in the economy was the best realistic solution. And if it didn’t come quickly enough, the economy may have eventually passed away. If it was quickly we had to have, Trump did it in record breaking, unprecedented time and fashion. Longest post ever, I know. May need to break it up over two days.
This post was edited on 9/2/23 at 12:54 am
Posted on 9/2/23 at 1:03 am to davyjones
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I know my mind could never be changed on it, no matter what.
Not healthy for the country that so many can be described this way.
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But the President can’t up and declare the whole thing bullshite, not in a country with 330 million all of whom at some point watched some media source updates on it, and we all know what that saId.
It wouldn’t have been a president up and declaring something. It would have been a president that explained what’s factual, explained what should be done to address the virus, and explained why it can’t be any more than that. It would also have been a president that made sure that agencies he was responsible for didn’t make shite up, but rather stuck to actual science and acted in a manner that best benefited the country.
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I’ve heard much ado here on this board from folks who claim to have known exactly what we know now, on day one. Seriously.
No, you haven’t. Why make shite up?
Nobody suggests they knew in real time “exactly what we know now”. What many say, and it’s factual, is they knew plenty in real time to have justified/supported a very different response to COVID - that would not have resulted in the cratering of the economy, the spending $10T (all told), or the turning the country over to Leftists because of a virus less lethal than a shitty flu to all but the very old/weak and already very unwell.
Posted on 9/2/23 at 5:17 am to Patriot2023
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Posted on 9/2/23 at 5:24 am to Patriot2023
And you are so stupid that you fail to realize the normal people aren't going to vote for an a-hole that thinks men can have babies.
Posted on 9/2/23 at 5:40 am to omegaman66
Again, this has been brought up many times, so many that it’s getting so redundant; but Trump was played, deep State got him on Covid. A Pandemic in an election year… he was damned! Do nothing, and the Press crucifies you on every death, be aggressive and the Deep State ends-around your arse…It was a perfect Deep State opp…It’s Trump’s worst detractor, probably why it keeps getting posted on here almost every day, probably the Feds on here, keeping the narrative going, daily…
Posted on 9/2/23 at 5:41 am to Patriot2023
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Doesn’t the idea that he was tricked make him weak and dumb? If he wasn’t tricked, then he went along with it-how does this make him anything more than THE ESTABLISHMENT? I can’t find answers for this.
Trump is in the unique position of being the only president to have ever dealt with that attack on the US. Everyone with 20/20 hindsight gets to attack him now for not firing Fauci. People were dying and it’s easy to now argue we should have sacrificed more lives in favor of not economically suiciding ourselves. Few of Trump’s supporters are going to fault him for not seeing into the future how it would turn out.
Posted on 9/2/23 at 5:58 am to Patriot2023
quote:Why the alter?
Patriot2023
There is a good answer, but how are we supposed to rationalize this as a legitimate question worth addressing?
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