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re: Trump EO on TikTok announced
Posted on 1/19/25 at 11:03 am to Lsut81
Posted on 1/19/25 at 11:03 am to Lsut81
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Hilarious seeing Trump flip flop on TikTok...
He hasn't that I know of. He clearly states in his current statement.. "matter of national security".
That has always been the issue talked about.
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Posted on 1/19/25 at 11:06 am to BCreed1
Joint venture between -
current or new owners
whereby
US gets 50% ownership and the purchase(r) is some entity the US chooses.
I'm not sure how anyone is supposed to infer anything but US govt ownership here. Hopefully he's not suggesting that, and this is just clumsy wording. With Trump, though, how can you tell?
current or new owners
whereby
US gets 50% ownership and the purchase(r) is some entity the US chooses.
I'm not sure how anyone is supposed to infer anything but US govt ownership here. Hopefully he's not suggesting that, and this is just clumsy wording. With Trump, though, how can you tell?
Posted on 1/19/25 at 11:07 am to Lsut81
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should have been legislation that every time someone signed in, they had to acknowledge that their info was open to CCP and that they were aware.
TikTok crybabies don't give two fricks about national security or Chinese data mining. Stupid idiots calling 911 to cry about TikTok being offline is all you need to know about its users.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 11:08 am to OchoDedos
Why won’t he just let it die. TikTok, and social media in general, has been awful for the division and mental health in this country.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 11:08 am to POTUS2024
Never change man. We are done here.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 11:08 am to BCreed1
frick 50%. China needs to sell the whole thing to an independent party. Either that or keep it banned.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 11:08 am to Thecoz
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This is the president of the United States making a public announcement… we are not sitting around the coffee table chatting ..
Calm down, Nancy. How about you wait for the details to shake out? If yall start all this bs without details again, it’s going to be a long 4 years.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 11:09 am to OchoDedos
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TikTok crybabies don't give two fricks about national security or Chinese data mining. Stupid idiots calling 911 to cry about TikTok being offline is all you need to know about its users.
So "Im from the government and I'm here to help" is the stance of the Repubs now
You make people aware of what they are exposing themselves to and leave it up to them to decide.
The only place TikTok should have been outright banned is on any govt employees device.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 11:14 am to VoxDawg
I feel the U.S. government is a bigger threat to me than the Chinese government.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 11:20 am to VoxDawg
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Needs to be 51% and guarantee that they shut off the flow of the data on users' mobile phones to the CCP.
Im sure it will be, he just said 50/50 because if he said 51 every msm would be questioning it because they are , well, they are the msm.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 11:23 am to Lsut81
Republicans nor the founding fathers were ever about no Gov. That's a ridiculous assertion.
No. It's We have to protect the people and national security from a communist nation looking to dominate the world.
not when the issue is national security.
Maybe, but that's opinion.
domestic Tranquility
Peace at home: The absence of riots, rebellions, and other signs of social disorder
Protection from outside enemies: The federal government is responsible for protecting the country from outside threats.
If it's a matter of national security, the gov has an obligation. If it's not, then frick that.
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So "Im from the government and I'm here to help" is the stance of the Repubs now
No. It's We have to protect the people and national security from a communist nation looking to dominate the world.
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You make people aware of what they are exposing themselves to and leave it up to them to decide.
not when the issue is national security.
quote:
The only place TikTok should have been outright banned is on any govt employees device.
Maybe, but that's opinion.
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We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
domestic Tranquility
Peace at home: The absence of riots, rebellions, and other signs of social disorder
Protection from outside enemies: The federal government is responsible for protecting the country from outside threats.
If it's a matter of national security, the gov has an obligation. If it's not, then frick that.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 11:23 am to BCreed1
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He hasn't that I know of. He clearly states in his current statement.. "matter of national security".
That has always been the issue talked about.
In his first term he sought to ban TikTok in various ways.
Dec 2020
WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal judge has blocked President Donald Trump’s attempts to ban TikTok, the latest legal defeat for the administration as it tries to wrest the popular app from its Chinese owners.
The Trump administration had tried to ban the short-form video app from smartphone app stores in the U.S. and cut it off from vital technical services. TikTok sued, arguing such actions would violate free speech and due process rights.
Judge Carl Nichols of the U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., said in a ruling Monday that the Commerce Department “likely overstepped” its use of presidential emergency powers “and acted in an arbitrary and capricious manner by failing to consider obvious alternatives.”
AP
Posted on 1/19/25 at 11:25 am to BCreed1
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No. It's We have to protect the people and national security
You sound like a progressive.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 11:31 am to BCreed1
JP Morgan said there is always "the good reason" and "the real reason".
The good reason....It helped Trump with the younger generation
The real reason.....
Always follow the money, always.
The good reason....It helped Trump with the younger generation
The real reason.....
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In the pitched battle between TikTok and Washington, few people stand to lose more than Jeff Yass, an American billionaire options trader who has emerged in recent years as a major donor to Republican candidates and causes.
Yass co-founded the Philadelphia-based trading firm Susquehanna International Group, which owns a 15% stake in TikTok’s China-based parent company, ByteDance. Yass’ personal share is 7%, worth roughly $21 billion.
Always follow the money, always.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 11:31 am to POTUS2024
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POTUS2024
I get you have an issue with comprehension, so I will point it out once more.
NATIONAL SECURITY has always been the issue for Trump and you link does not disprove that.
Now I'm going to provide you the link to Trump's actual EO. Maybe that will register with you:
LINK
Here is a list of KEY WORDS from it if you don't want to read it:
Specifically, the spread in the United States of mobile applications developed and owned by companies in the People’s Republic of China (China) continues to threaten the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States.
So to be CLEAR, the issue has always been national security with Trump.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 11:31 am to BCreed1
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Never change man. We are done here.
Don't blame others because he doesn't know how to write and you don't know how to read.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 11:32 am to CDawson
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The US gov has exactly zero business owning any portion of a private business
I agree but in order to make sure it's secure I'm ok with it for now. But I'd like to see it mandated that the US sell off 5% per year of their holdings over 10 years and the money go towards the current debt. That way we make sure commies aren't spying and government won't have control of what information being disseminated while paying off some debt. Win for everyone
This post was edited on 1/19/25 at 11:41 am
Posted on 1/19/25 at 11:34 am to BCreed1
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owned by companies in the People’s Republic of China (China) continues to threaten the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States.
I'd say American owned companies controlling speech on these platforms is a much larger danger to the American public.
I'd rather chinese spy on me than my own govt.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 11:34 am to RogerTheShrubber
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You sound like a progressive.
And you are a communist.
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