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Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:38 am to Jjdoc
DeSantis is a mole, a plant and a snake in the grass. Trump would be stupid to put him on his ticket. Now if he were smart, Rand Paul all the way.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:39 am to OMLandshark
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The President and Vice President can’t be from the same state legally.
I keep hearing this. According to what law?
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:40 am to Jjdoc
Trump doesn't have to rule out a Trump/DeSantis ticket; DeSantis will do that.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:41 am to ThatTahoeOverThere
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Now if he were smart, Rand Paul all the way.
No, he’s not a good choice either. He’s probably the single most effective senator and is currently on an rampage to throw Fauci into prison. He’s better there than being a worthless VP.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:42 am to squid_hunt
The 12th amendment prohibits electors from voting for 2 candidates from the same state. Residual from before the Pres and VP were united on one ticket. Early elections we voted for them separately, and the was12th amendment put in place. We no longer vote for them separately, but the rule is still there. In a close election, the Trump/Desantis ticket would lose Florida's votes.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:42 am to OMLandshark
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A) The President and Vice President can’t be from the same state legally.
There are many misconceptions about the rules of a president choosing their running mate. There’s no law or regulation against a president and vice president of the United States being from the same state. The reason why some people mistakenly believe such a prohibition exists comes down to a particular aspect of the Electoral College system laid out in Article II of the U.S. Constitution.
Article II states: “The electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for two persons, of whom one at least shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves.”
Under the original system, electors did not distinguish between candidates for the nation’s top two offices; the candidate with the most votes became president, while the runner-up became vice president. The 12th Amendment, adopted in 1804 after two chaotic elections, mandated that electors cast separate ballots for president and vice president. However, the rule preventing an elector from voting for two people from his home state remained in effect under the new system.
In most elections, this quirk in the system wouldn’t even matter. In 2008, Barack Obama could have chosen a running mate from his home state of Illinois in either 2008 or 2012 with no adverse effect; the same goes for Ronald Reagan in 1980 or ’84, George H.W. Bush in 1988 and Bill Clinton in 1992 or ‘96.
But if an election turns out to be particularly close, the rule could potentially come into play. It almost did in the notoriously contentious election of 2000. When Texas Gov. George W. Bush chose Dick Cheney as his running mate on the Republican ticket, Cheney had been living and voting and paying taxes for five years in Texas. Shortly before the election, however, Cheney obtained a Wyoming driver’s license and put his Dallas home on the market. (He had a vacation home in Wyoming, which is the state he had formerly represented in the U.S. Congress.) Good thing for him he did: The Bush-Cheney ticket ended up winning with 271 electoral votes—just a slim five-vote margin—over Al Gore and Joe Lieberman, a total they certainly wouldn’t have hit without Texas’ 32 votes.
America 101: Can the president and vice president be from the same state?
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:43 am to OMLandshark
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No, he’s not a good choice either.
Paul is not a good national candidate. Unless you actually care about policy, no one is going to vote for his pissy demeanor.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:43 am to squid_hunt
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I keep hearing this. According to what law?
The Constitution.
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The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves;
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:45 am to squid_hunt
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Paul is not a good national candidate. Unless you actually care about policy, no one is going to vote for his pissy demeanor.
He’s one of the few people in the legislature who is actually good at his job. It always brightens my day when Fauci goes to hearing and Rand rips into his arse.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:45 am to UTMaverick
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was12th amendment put in place. We no longer vote for them separately, but the rule is still there. In a close election, the Trump/Desantis ticket would lose Florida's votes.
They would not.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:45 am to Fun Bunch
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The Constitution.
Thanks.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:45 am to Jjdoc
I mean, great and all, but will Trump relocate himself to another state in order to run? DeSantis is Governor of Florida. He can't move.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:45 am to Jjdoc
Is Desantis grooming his successor currently? I think the simple answer to keeping Florida red is pull someone conservative and competent up in your wake. Would be a win win.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:45 am to Jjdoc
Trump needs to go. We’d get far more support for DeSantis/Noem
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:46 am to Dawgholio
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DeSantis/Noem
If you're going to trot out that back stabbing chamber of commerce whore as a choice, don't expect to be taken seriously.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:47 am to Jjdoc
Could you please stop thinking jjdoc and find Jesus Christ?
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:47 am to squid_hunt
If you like losing then keep trotting out washed up Trump.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:47 am to Fun Bunch
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The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves;
This is concerning electors and a time when they cast a vote for VP. We no longer do that.
And it does not matter. Trump has many properties that he can locate to.
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