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re: Trump Demanding that Interest Rates Drop

Posted on 1/23/25 at 3:40 pm to
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
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Posted on 1/23/25 at 3:40 pm to
I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/23/25 at 3:44 pm to
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Either you don't know the definition of hyperbole or you didn't read the article in OP. Come on man.
And you've not read the Art of the Deal.

As one of the Davos players put it, "take everything Trump says very seriously, but not necessarily literally."

E.g., Trump also said inflation was the worst ever during the Biden years (probably referencing rate of escalation rather than peak %). He scolded Moynihan for refusing conservative customers (referencing asymmetric debanking). He's bragged the pre-Covid economy of his first term was the best ever, "like nothing anybody's ever seen." He says we're going to tariff China 60%. Then he says we're going to tariff China 10%. Etc. Etc.

Hyperbole.

Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 1/23/25 at 3:44 pm to
Besides losing his job by resigning, why is he so hell bent on staying there and not helping? Can you answer that?
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91751 posts
Posted on 1/23/25 at 3:44 pm to
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Ummm Didn't Trump appoint Powell?

Make this make sense.
trump gave someone a chance and they turned out to be a swamp creature.

this isn't hard.
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 1/23/25 at 3:49 pm to
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Lol. They won't?


No.... Actually, Lower Interest Rates will inflate the Housing Bubble even more. That's why we have a Housing Bubble now because they kept rates low for to long
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7943 posts
Posted on 1/23/25 at 4:00 pm to
I just asked "Copilot" about removal of the chairman of the federal reserve and it said the President could do it.

Who knew????
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133711 posts
Posted on 1/23/25 at 4:03 pm to
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Why do you think Trump wants to lower rates?

Because that's what the people want.
There is a significant percentage of Americans (Boomers, I'm looking at you) who are better off financially if rates are higher because they are surplus savers and earn interest on their savings.

The higher the interest rates, the higher their interest income.
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
16180 posts
Posted on 1/23/25 at 4:07 pm to
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No....actually
Do you the difference in a sellers market and a buyers market?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36071 posts
Posted on 1/23/25 at 4:09 pm to
Initially during Covid it was a combination of really low rates coupled with scarcity. I fear a glut more than low rates.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135775 posts
Posted on 1/23/25 at 4:12 pm to
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You keep assuming every homeowner has a mortgage.

Millions of U.S. homeowners own their houses free and clear of debt, including me.
CNBC ran a piece yesterday. They said 43% of U.S. homeowners own their homes outright, with no mortgage debt. I was pleasantly surprised at that number.

As long as we could borrow in the 2's, and write the interest off to boot, we kept notes on our places and invested the money.

When we moved this summer though, the insanely low rates were history even with private sources, so we became one of the 43% along with you.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133711 posts
Posted on 1/23/25 at 4:16 pm to
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CNBC ran a piece yesterday. They said 43% of U.S. homeowners own their homes outright, with no mortgage debt. I was pleasantly surprised at that number.
I didn't see that and I didn't realize the percent of homeowners without a mortgage was that high.

The last time I looked up that data, which was pre-COVID, the percent was around 35% as I recall.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53977 posts
Posted on 1/23/25 at 4:19 pm to
6-7% interest rates for commercial and personal loans is not historically high by any measure. It seems the lower the Fed funds rate is the more reckless both businesses and individuals become with cheap money.

When people put their hard earned money into a bank it should never earn less than the current rate of inflation and it should certainly earn more than paltry .002% that insane ZIRP policy brings.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133711 posts
Posted on 1/23/25 at 4:20 pm to
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Who knew????
Not Copilot, obviously.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
26007 posts
Posted on 1/23/25 at 4:33 pm to
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Lowering the rate is just asking for inflation.


Shhhh, donald can do no wrong in these parts bub.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94128 posts
Posted on 1/23/25 at 4:42 pm to
W
quote:

Lowering the rate is just asking for inflation.


Shhhh, donald can do no wrong in these parts bub.


Inflation has been lowered

Its not our fault you two morons cant read a report
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
26007 posts
Posted on 1/23/25 at 4:46 pm to
quote:

Inflation has been lowered

Its not our fault you two morons cant read a report


Holy shite you think this is how it works lmfao.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94128 posts
Posted on 1/23/25 at 4:47 pm to
Its ok to admit you are dumb
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135775 posts
Posted on 1/23/25 at 4:47 pm to
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Lowering rates will initially increase demand, which over the course of months will increase pricing.
Whoops. ETA:

I was listening live and heard "inflation" not "interest".

Trump said interest rate, not inflation rates.

The odd thing is a Trump economic advisor this evening was citing the recent FFR decreases before hitting targets as a mistake.

So I'm not sure WTF they're pushing as policy
This post was edited on 1/23/25 at 5:14 pm
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
26007 posts
Posted on 1/23/25 at 4:48 pm to
quote:

ok to admit you are dumb


You tell me with every post
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298085 posts
Posted on 1/23/25 at 4:49 pm to
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I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this.
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