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Posted on 1/20/26 at 4:14 pm to lsuguy84
Can you believe that guy?
He’s such a rascal.
He’s such a rascal.
Posted on 1/20/26 at 4:14 pm to roadGator
Better than a lying pos
Posted on 1/20/26 at 4:15 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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The only time I got really personal with someone was with Moment of Truth
The Seals will say
Jugbow and his ilk
That's just in this thread.
BTW...
Just a guess. Maybe it's because there is a crew of a few that never have anything to add other than OMB while they claim to be conservatives. The whole time they are doing that, they attack other posters.
For example. Roger and his merry little band often attack everything Trump does as SOCIALIST. One of those examples is tariffs. Did you know that tariffs to them are socialist tools? So I will challenge you the same way I did them seeking a honest debate. I mean it seems to be what you are saying you are after here right?
If tariffs are socialist tools, and Trump using them is socialism then does it not stand to reason that this nation was founded on socialism and continued that path for it's entire existence? After all, we have always used tariffs. ALWAYS.
Posted on 1/20/26 at 4:15 pm to lsuguy84
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I don’t think you’re intelligent enough for where this thread is going to go. Good luck.
Intelligence will have nothing to do with where this thread is heading.
Posted on 1/20/26 at 4:16 pm to Jugbow
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Because you and Boosie ooze conservatism?
Posted on 1/20/26 at 4:16 pm to JackieTreehorn
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He's such a pussy. Not a single comment on the Clintons telling him to frick off.
TDS claimed another one. He gone. Enjoy being primaried, MFer.
Posted on 1/20/26 at 4:19 pm to Jugbow
You big dummy.
Zing. Right over your head.
Annnd…
Zing. Right over your head.
Annnd…
Posted on 1/20/26 at 4:19 pm to MikkUGA
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Actually he can do that. He has Bessent set up the account in a neutral territory by law 31 USC 9705 Treasury Forfeiture Fund. Then Bessent delegates the day to day management of those funds to the Executive Office for Asset Forfeiture. The only thing required is that they issue annual reports to Congress on how much money is in the fund and how it was spent. Its literally the federal law and dumbass Massie is too dumb to even know what is legal and what his job is. This is literally how they handled the money that Obama gave to Iran. except the funds for Venezuela are in a secured account that prevents people from seizing the money.
Oh shiiiiiiiit! MikkUGA just PWNED that do-nothing, grandstanding TDS bitch Massie and his cock suckers on this board. Nice!
Posted on 1/20/26 at 4:21 pm to BCreed1
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Just a guess. Maybe it's because there is a crew of a few that never have anything to add other than OMB while they claim to be conservatives. The whole time they are doing that, they attack other posters.
For example. Roger and his merry little band often attack everything Trump does as SOCIALIST. One of those examples is tariffs. Did you know that tariffs to them are socialist tools? So I will challenge you the same way I did them seeking a honest debate. I mean it seems to be what you are saying you are after here right?
If tariffs are socialist tools, and Trump using them is socialism then does it not stand to reason that this nation was founded on socialism and continued that path for it's entire existence? After all, we have always used tariffs. ALWAYS.
Thanks for the response, but I am not sure how that applies to me. I will try not to reciprocate as much when someone insults me.l
FWIW, I agree with your analysis of the importance of tariffs in our nation's history. The issue is what authority has Congress delegated to the President to impose certain tariffs.
Posted on 1/20/26 at 4:21 pm to IvoryBillMatt
He only did that 24 hours later because he was getting called out massively on his social media accounts, where he likes to grandstand, for not saying anything. Then still couldn't resist letting his TDS flow...
Posted on 1/20/26 at 4:21 pm to BCreed1
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BCreed1
Great reply. The same people attack using the same words. The whole clapping seal thing, rascal, mot, whatever else. They simply cannot stand me and that’s great. Roadgator says I’m obsessed yet the mother fricker can’t help himself but to be in every thread i start to derail it. Look at LSUguy84, roadgator a month ago said im MoT to him I’ve never interacted with him and instead of discussing Massie he says this thread isn’t going to go the way I think. Hes back to defend his boys using the same words.
I think it’s hilarious and I’ll continue to post about Massie. Perhaps they’ll learn not to bump my threads.
Posted on 1/20/26 at 4:22 pm to BCreed1
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The whole topic of Massie's message. He stated the president can not do it. It's shown in this thread why Trump can do it. That Massie either knows he is lying or is ignorant to the laws.
Did you stick your nose into an exchange without knowing wtf was going on again? What you've posted here has zero to do with the exchange I was involved in. I'll make it simple for you -
Poster suffering from MDS: "Massie didn't say anything about the Clintons defying a congressional subpoena!!!!"
David_DJS: "Massie tweeted about it, at least once"
jjdoc: "gobbledygook unrelated gobbledygook"
That's where we are right now. Do you have anything meaningful to add?
Posted on 1/20/26 at 4:22 pm to BCreed1
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It's shown in this thread why Trump can do it.
Posted on 1/20/26 at 4:23 pm to Decatur
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Which already passed law?
uhhhh, the 3 listed in his AI summary
Try to keep up
Posted on 1/20/26 at 4:23 pm to RobbBobb
?1. What are Foreign Government Deposit Funds?
?In this context, FGDF is a legal designation created by the 2026 Executive Order. It defines Venezuelan oil revenue as:
?Sovereign Property: Funds derived from natural resources that belong to the State of Venezuela.
?Custodial Assets: Money held by the U.S. Treasury in a "governmental capacity," essentially acting as a temporary trustee or "banker" (as Secretary Bessent describes it).
?Non-Commercial: Specifically declared as not for commercial use, which is a legal maneuver to invoke Sovereign Immunity.
?2. Why aren't they just in the TFF (31 U.S.C. § 9705)?
?While some seized tankers (the "Shadow Fleet") do have their proceeds sent to the Treasury Forfeiture Fund (TFF) under forfeiture law, the bulk of the new oil sales are not being deposited there for three strategic reasons:
?Protection from Creditors (The "Legal Shield"): This is the most important reason. Venezuela owes over $60 billion to private creditors (bondholders, ConocoPhillips, etc.). If the money were in a standard account or a law-enforcement forfeiture fund, these creditors could sue to "attach" (seize) the money to pay off debts. By designating them as "Foreign Government Deposit Funds" held for "diplomatic purposes," the administration grants them legal immunity from private lawsuits.
?Diplomatic Flexibility: Money in the TFF is legally earmarked for law enforcement purposes (like funding the DEA or IRS). By keeping the oil money in a separate "deposit" status, Secretary Bessent and Secretary Rubio have the flexibility to eventually hand the money back to a future Venezuelan government for "reconstruction"—something that would be much harder to do once money is absorbed into the TFF.
?Avoiding "Stolen" Labels: Using the TFF implies the U.S. has permanently "forfeited" (taken ownership of) the money because of a crime. By using "Deposit Funds," the U.S. can argue they are merely "holding" the money for the Venezuelan people, which looks better internationally and complies with different sections of the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act (FSIA
My guess as far as the oil companies they would not sue because they have already long ago made an insurance claim and written it off but they may not be aware of other countries or companies in other countries like Russia, China or Iran that may have law suits that could tie the money up. This way they can give the money back to Venezuela with out any problems. Point being is that Massie and all these other congress members are not business experts or business law experts. Trump, Bessent and Lutnick are.
?In this context, FGDF is a legal designation created by the 2026 Executive Order. It defines Venezuelan oil revenue as:
?Sovereign Property: Funds derived from natural resources that belong to the State of Venezuela.
?Custodial Assets: Money held by the U.S. Treasury in a "governmental capacity," essentially acting as a temporary trustee or "banker" (as Secretary Bessent describes it).
?Non-Commercial: Specifically declared as not for commercial use, which is a legal maneuver to invoke Sovereign Immunity.
?2. Why aren't they just in the TFF (31 U.S.C. § 9705)?
?While some seized tankers (the "Shadow Fleet") do have their proceeds sent to the Treasury Forfeiture Fund (TFF) under forfeiture law, the bulk of the new oil sales are not being deposited there for three strategic reasons:
?Protection from Creditors (The "Legal Shield"): This is the most important reason. Venezuela owes over $60 billion to private creditors (bondholders, ConocoPhillips, etc.). If the money were in a standard account or a law-enforcement forfeiture fund, these creditors could sue to "attach" (seize) the money to pay off debts. By designating them as "Foreign Government Deposit Funds" held for "diplomatic purposes," the administration grants them legal immunity from private lawsuits.
?Diplomatic Flexibility: Money in the TFF is legally earmarked for law enforcement purposes (like funding the DEA or IRS). By keeping the oil money in a separate "deposit" status, Secretary Bessent and Secretary Rubio have the flexibility to eventually hand the money back to a future Venezuelan government for "reconstruction"—something that would be much harder to do once money is absorbed into the TFF.
?Avoiding "Stolen" Labels: Using the TFF implies the U.S. has permanently "forfeited" (taken ownership of) the money because of a crime. By using "Deposit Funds," the U.S. can argue they are merely "holding" the money for the Venezuelan people, which looks better internationally and complies with different sections of the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act (FSIA
My guess as far as the oil companies they would not sue because they have already long ago made an insurance claim and written it off but they may not be aware of other countries or companies in other countries like Russia, China or Iran that may have law suits that could tie the money up. This way they can give the money back to Venezuela with out any problems. Point being is that Massie and all these other congress members are not business experts or business law experts. Trump, Bessent and Lutnick are.
This post was edited on 1/20/26 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 1/20/26 at 4:24 pm to TBoy
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quote:
I don’t think you’re intelligent enough for where this thread is going to go. Good luck.
Intelligence will have nothing to do with where this thread is heading.
So says one of the biggest retards on here. Sit this one out, dipshit.
Posted on 1/20/26 at 4:26 pm to BTROleMisser
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He only did that 24 hours later because he was getting called out massively on his social media accounts, where he likes to grandstand, for not saying anything. Then still couldn't resist letting his TDS flow...
That's your opinion, you might be right. I just want to see if you can acknowledge objective reality.
Did Massie comment on the Clintons ignoring the Congressional subpoena? If so, was Jackie full of shite?
Posted on 1/20/26 at 4:26 pm to MikkUGA
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Actually he can do that. He has Bessent set up the account in a neutral territory by law 31 USC 9705 Treasury Forfeiture Fund.
Someone is feeding you some bull here.
The Department of the Treasury Forfeiture Fund already exists. Funds are deposited in the Treasury Suspense Account at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. The Fund is under the exclusive control of the Treasury Executive Office for Asset Forfeiture.
Trump is putting funds in a bank in Qatar, not in the Department of the Treasury Forfeiture Fund. Trump claims that only he has the power to manage the money. That is not the 31 USC 9705 Fund.
Posted on 1/20/26 at 4:26 pm to Jugbow
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Because you and Boosie ooze conservatism?
No, because you posted that.
YOU posted that. Not me.
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