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re: Trump campaign advisor George Papadopolous plead guilty on making false statements to FBI
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:01 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:01 pm to StraightCashHomey21
quote:
no one on here is wanting Hilary as president.
I can think of a few. They may not admit it though.
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Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:03 pm to Iosh
This looks like a very minor deal that will be low-hanging fruit for people grasping at straws. Not at all concerned.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:04 pm to Iosh
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Some HuffPo guy has a billion tweet storm up now about how Papadopolous can provide the smoking gun on hillary-emails-for-platform-change collusion. I am very skeptical of this, seems like Mensch-level wishful thinking.
Everybody wants to be the guy who comes out on the other side saying "i called that!!!"
There's basically no penalty for guessing wrong
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:13 pm to blackjackjackson
quote:
Mr. Papadopoulos was quietly arrested at Washington Dulles Airport on July 27 and has since been cooperating with the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, records show. Mr. Papadopoulos’s conversation in April raises more questions about a subsequent meeting in June at Trump Tower, where Mr. Trump’s eldest son and senior advisers met with Russians who were similarly promising damaging information on Mrs. Clinton.
LINK
"Cooperating" is the key word.
This post was edited on 10/30/17 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:14 pm to BigAppleBucky
Unable to link is no way to go through life Bucky.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:18 pm to Jbird
i'm not really experienced in federal-criminal procedures
why was the indictment-plea of Pap unsealed today? was there some timeframe that forced it? i can't imagine that if he was still participating that they'd put it out there into the public like this, although i could be wrong
why was the indictment-plea of Pap unsealed today? was there some timeframe that forced it? i can't imagine that if he was still participating that they'd put it out there into the public like this, although i could be wrong
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:18 pm to Iosh
quote:
Some HuffPo guy has a billion tweet storm up now about how Papadopolous can provide the smoking gun on hillary-emails-for-platform-change collusion. I am very skeptical of this, seems like Mensch-level wishful thinking.
Seems like best case scenario from the prosecutors perspective is they are using his cooperation to work their way up the chain of command.
On a side note, some of the more out-of-left-field actions of Trump do seem to have a bit more context. For instance, the infamous Comey pledge happened the same day Papadopoulos lies to the FBI. Trump began the firestorm of pardon signals in July when Papadopoulos was arrested and it was indicated to Manafort he may eventually be indicted, and the raid occurred.
Unless you are a full on cultist, it’s hard to rationalize a way Trump didn’t have some knowledge of the going ons of at least some of this stuff, proving that though is another matter entirely.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:18 pm to Decatur
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Wondering if Papadopolous is a cooperating witness now.
Do you or anybody else know if "proactively collaborating" means they wanted him to wear a wire?
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:20 pm to JuiceTerry
High level campaign officials knew and encouraged Papadop, tried to keep DT's name away from it
Dude has flipped
shite is getting real
Dude has flipped
shite is getting real
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:20 pm to TigerDoc
quote:
Do you or anybody else know if "proactively collaborating" means they wanted him to wear a wire?
considering he couldn't get his emails replied to and the investigation by feds started in January, i don't think a wire would provide anything fruitful
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:No idea why but I am sure Honest Bob Mueller and his band of Dem donors are doing what's right.
why was the indictment-plea of Pap unsealed today? was there some timeframe that forced it? i can't imagine that if he was still participating that they'd put it out there into the public like this, although i could be wrong
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:To scare people
why was the indictment-plea of Pap unsealed today?
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:22 pm to JuiceTerry
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To scare people
that literally makes no sense, given the Manafort indictment
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:22 pm to BeefDawg
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How do you not get that if Putin is trying to get some low level adviser to put him and Trump together, that this CONFIRMS that Trump and Putin weren't in cahoots? If you're already colluding and in bed together, you don't go around begging for meetings.
Oops.
Great point. 
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:24 pm to lsufan31
quote:
The DNC emails were hacked and later released by wikileaks
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:28 pm to JuiceTerry
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Why not?
a. it's going to be somewhat overshadowed or at least have to share coverage with Paul Manafort. decreases the "scare"
b. why seal it to then reveal it to scare people 2-3 months later? what i mean is, why seal it in the first place and lose 2-3 months of "scaring"
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
I dunno, seems like it was a hell of a cherry on top today, though
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
the indictment doesn't indicate any meeting b/w the actual Trump admin and the Russian agent
the best "smoking gun' is one upper level campaign guy (likely Manafort? Flynn?) telling Papadopolous to make the trip (after like 20 emails)
the trip never happened, per the indictment
i'd imagine if there was more, we'd know by now. the feds seem to have read a lot of emails among the Trump campaign. it seems somebody close to the campaign knew he pled in July, which makes the August story seem like a leak/spin.
the day after Papadopoulos was told about the Russian's hacking emails and having dirt on Clinton, Sessions, Kushner and Trump had their undisclosed encounter with Kislayak at the Mayflower Hotel.
April 26 and 27, 2016.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:55 pm to Kyrie Eleison
Dayuuuum
JK complete coincidence
JK complete coincidence
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