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re: Trump backs push for Bible classes in schools

Posted on 2/3/19 at 6:52 am to
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 6:52 am to
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giving students the option of studying the Bible.


An optional class. So it will probably be an elective class and not part of the core corriculum needed to graduate. Sounds like a healthy dose of liberty. Carry on.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11309 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 7:04 am to
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Furthermore, as any English teacher can attest, knowing Biblical stories is an IMMENSE benefit when it comes to understanding symbolism and allusions throughout the entire western canon of literature.

Books became much more rewarding and better understood if you read them while knowing where the Christian symbolism is.

The Bible is an extremely important reference book for universal themes, motifs, and messages. Biblical plots, philosophical musings, complex moral questions, they all show up in our masterpieces. In fact, entire novels regarded as classic are actually just remakes of biblical stories


Excellent post. Understanding the Bible is important to understanding a lot of Western literature. It would be beneficial to take a Biblical literature class just to understand the themes and references in many books. Disregarding one of the most influential books of all time, that repeatedly appears in countless other literature, just because you don't like what it says is dumb.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 7:08 am to
What's the big deal about an optional class? I'm atheist and I can see The simple solution if I don't want to attend this class

of course if the class were offered when I was in high school I'm the kind of person who would have taken it.

I find learning what drives social movements to be interesting.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23149 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 7:09 am to
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When you give the authority to the state to teach religion to your children, you lose control of the content of the lessons. They may not teach what you want your kids to learn.




We have already given the state control to teach johnny has two daddies, what could a survey of the old or new testament class hurt?
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 7:11 am to
Remember when right wing Republicans overturned a nearly 200 year old rule against religious head wear on the floor of Congress?

Oh wait, that was Democrats, to appease their Muslim bff's.

Left wingers only problem with religion is with Christianity.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62072 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 7:22 am to
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We have already given the state control to teach johnny has two daddies, what could a survey of the old or new testament class hurt?


It's kind of amusing when leftist claim something like the Bible is too controversial to share with kids, but teaching them about anal sex in third grade, teaching them that a boy with a penis can be a girl, teaching them that George Washington was a racists slave owner, etc. all good!
This post was edited on 2/3/19 at 7:30 am
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
11148 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 7:22 am to
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overreach on Seperation if Church & State

Grinds my gears when people take this paraphrase out of context. Furthermore you capitalize it like it’s some type of formal policy.
This post was edited on 2/3/19 at 7:29 am
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 7:27 am to
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The problem is Christianity/ Bible is being selected as the book of reference. If a State was bringing the Koran into the classsroms the there would be a rightful backlash.


That’s because the Koran is literature that isn’t fit for me to wipe my arse with.
Posted by cardswinagain
Member since Jun 2013
13383 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 7:27 am to
Why do liberals hate God and this country so much?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 7:27 am to
I don't care about optional classes as long as they teach it for what it is. Considering who is pushing for this, I have a hard time believing it won't be taught as religious propaganda.

Muh Slippery Slope, right guys?
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62072 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 7:32 am to
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Muh Slippery Slope, right guys?


We are way passed the slippery slope period in our present history. We have slid off the slope into the mire.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 7:39 am to
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It is up there with Edith Hamilton’s mythology as the most important reference guide to classical literature influences.


and of course the course must include those dozens of examples in other cultures from.which the ideas promulgated in bible were borrowed.

Virgin births

He arose.

All of it.

Faked "news"
This post was edited on 2/3/19 at 7:40 am
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27965 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 7:51 am to
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When you give the authority to the state to teach religion to your children, you lose control of the content of the lessons. They may not teach what you want your kids to learn.


When political correctness makes it's way into biology class and they teach kids that men can become women and women can become men surely you'll be against that huh?
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62072 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 7:52 am to
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Virgin births He arose. All of it. Faked "news"



Don't forget the part about how Mohamed was a peaceful guy who just loved little children.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 8:00 am to
You know what's funny is I really don't see any problem on the surface with offering an optional class that parents can easily choose to not have their children take part in. Given how many things the schools inject into the school year that they do not give the parents an option on or they're slightly sneaky about, a straight-up optional class just doesn't seem worth worrying about

that said if I do have one critique of it it's the same one I have for a lot of things the school does above basic education

That is that they're not even getting the results one would hope for from the core educational process and every minute spent in school doing something other than the core educational process is a minute taken away from their primary mission

But I apply that to all the silly shite. From sex education to religious studies to Heather has two mommies and on and on.

Seems to me that if you are tasked with a mission and you excelling at that mission then you shouldn't be taking on new ancillary missions
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 8:03 am to
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Don't forget the part about how Mohamed was a peaceful guy who just loved little children.



Its not a biblical reference.

Its got nothing to do with a consideration of the literature of bible.

Oh wait. It's an attempted deflection.

The greatest story ever sold.
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recommend it for anyone interested in comparative religion, Christian history, and both reconstructive and mystical paganism. This book suggests that the Bible can be a priceless resource for anyone interested in ritual and esoteric astrology, and anyone looking to research pre-Christian religions.
ragnels review
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9957 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 8:09 am to
I have a problem with public funds being used to teach bible study in public schools.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62072 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 8:16 am to
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I have a problem with public funds being used to teach bible study in public schools.


How about using public funds to teach third graders about anal sex?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 8:17 am to
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We are way passed the slippery slope period in our present history. We have slid off the slope into the mire.


The further we have moved from religious nonsense, the more we have improved as a society. Religion can be useful when dealing with ignorant masses, but as some religions continue to show it can be dangerous, too.
Posted by Blueprint
Member since Apr 2018
2187 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 8:18 am to
We must turn back to God. This is an outstanding idea.
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