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re: Trump approval is pretty good.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:35 pm to GumboPot
Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:35 pm to GumboPot
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Rasmussen picked Trump to win by 3.0 in 2024. Trump won by 1.5. A differential of 1.5.
But I guess you consider NPR or Marist to be more reputable who picked Trump to lose by 4.0. A differential of 5.5.
Rasmussen has been more accurate than the narrative shaping polls.
this take is incredibly flawed
rasmussen always, always leans hard right. so when the gop wins an unexpected victory, clapping seals like to point and say "see! s00per accurate!!1!"
it's like the crazy street preacher in the desert screaming about a hard rain's a comin. he's wrong for hundreds of days but when it eventually rains he wants to say "see! i was right!"
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Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:37 pm to beaux duke
This is how one copes.
This post was edited on 5/28/25 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:42 pm to mwade91383
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mwade91383
Hey dumbass, a Daily Kos poll said the same thing, according to the other thread. Explain how they are "outlying", too.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:43 pm to RohanGonzales
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Daily Kos poll said the same thing
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Explain how they are "outlying", too.
How could I possibly do that? You fundamentally don't understand anything, specifically what an acecdote is and isn't.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:43 pm to mwade91383
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You're doing it again, you're talking about one election. And there's no way to fact check pre election polls beforehand, especially weeks or months before voting (as in, the actual results to be measured against).
I don't think you fundamentally understand the valid criticism of Rassmussen polling. You need to zoom out a lot more.
You are asking me to do your work for you.
If you have valid criticism of Rasmussen just state it instead of claiming I'm not accounting for it.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:48 pm to beaux duke
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this take is incredibly flawed
rasmussen always, always leans hard right. so when the gop wins an unexpected victory, clapping seals like to point and say "see! s00per accurate!!1!"
Rasmussen not only got 2024 right they got 2020 and 2016 right too.
What are your expectations?
Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:49 pm to mwade91383
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How could I possibly do that?
But you expect others to do it with other pollsters?
Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:50 pm to Riverside
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Trump has been crushing it lately. Hence all the melts by the TDS crowd.
Time to move on the the next fake crisis and try that.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:51 pm to GumboPot
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You are asking me to do your work for you.
If you have valid criticism of Rasmussen just state it instead of claiming I'm not accounting for it.
It's not clear you'd understand the criticism if I did.
Question for you: why is referencing a single anecdote (or even 2, or 3) a flawed argument when judging the overall quality of a pollster???
This post was edited on 5/28/25 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:55 pm to SallysHuman
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And even WITH constant, undermining, negative and oppositional coverage and reporting.
Just imagine what the numbers WOULD be in a fair media universe.
Legacy media is in decline thanks to all of the sources on Internet eroding their former gatekeeper status. They are now like like gate keepers, but their gate has no fence.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:55 pm to mwade91383
Whether the pollster got the final results of the presidential race right is a very good indicator that the pollster is using sound polling techniques and methodology. I don’t understand how you don’t understand this.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:55 pm to GumboPot
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Rasmussen not only got 2024 right they got 2020 and 2016 right too.
2016 proves my point the most. i know, i know, every maga on here will reply how they knew trump was going to win the whole time. reality is almost nobody had trump winning. it really was an astounding victory. but rasmussen "calling it" is the same as the guy who rooted for the cubs to win a world series his whole life and when they finally do wants to point to his call as some kind of insight.
regarding 2020, rasumussen was the only recognized poll that had trump winning up until 10.28.20, eventually settling on a 48/47 win for biden. hardly a firm proclamation of victory
https://www.270towin.com/2020-polls-biden-trump/national/
Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:57 pm to beaux duke
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beaux duke
Daily Kos poll matches Rasmussen, now refute them
Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:58 pm to Riverside
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Whether the pollster got the final results of the presidential race right is a very good indicator that the pollster is using sound polling techniques and methodology.
If you said raceS, as in many, over a long period of time, and consistently, you'd have a point!
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I don’t understand how you don’t understand this.
Of course you don't.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:59 pm to mwade91383
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It's not clear you'd understand the criticism if I did.
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mwade91383
Washington DC
Oh, you're one of those holier than thou credentialed class a-holes, huh?
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Question for you: why is referencing a single anecdote (or even 2, or 3) a flawed argument when judging the overall quality of a pollster???
This thread is not even about the veracity of Rasmussen polling. You are the one making the assertion Rasmussen polling sucks.
Now back it up and don't cop out because you believe it's not worth the effort because no one will understand you.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:59 pm to Auburn1968
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They are now like like gate keepers, but their gate has no fence.
I might have to borrow this one!
Posted on 5/28/25 at 3:00 pm to SallysHuman
In that universe, he would be 75%, EASILY.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 3:03 pm to GumboPot
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This thread is not even about the veracity of Rasmussen polling.
Which is crazy because you're trying your hardest to defend it in the least intellectually honest way possible. More anecdotes!
It's telling you wouldn't answer the question. Forget politics, it's just REALLY basic statistical analysis 101 type stuff.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 3:03 pm to RohanGonzales
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Daily Kos poll matches Rasmussen, now refute them
you'll need to post a link to whatever you're sky screaming about
the only daily kos info i see here is from pandy fackler's second link. that shows rasmussen +7 and daily kos -5
maybe i missed another link?
Posted on 5/28/25 at 3:04 pm to mwade91383
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It's telling you wouldn't answer the question.
Can you restate the question please?
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