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re: Trump appoints leading vaccine skeptic as head of vaccine safety panel

Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:50 am to
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:50 am to
What is it with conspiracy theorists and their inability to provide proof that isn't 10+ minute video
Posted by Navytiger74
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:50 am to
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Well you're a lot better at functioning than most people on the spectrum.
Don't gas him up too much.
Posted by notsince98
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:50 am to
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Except all the ones required by CBER to even bring it to market



False. There no scientific safety tests required. The tests done are the new vaccine vs either an old vaccine or a plain adjuvent that includes toxins like aluminum or other undisclosed elements.

A scientific safety test requires the testing be done vs an actual PLACEBO. Science deniers claim this is unethical.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:51 am to
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You do realize there scientists who worked for the CDC who admitted they have done studies that indicated there may be links and were ordered to bury the findings, right? This is all public info and cannot be disputed.


This is also a lie
Posted by notsince98
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:51 am to
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This is a blatant lie


You clearly either don't know what a scientific safety test is or you don't know what a placebo is because it is the absolute truth it isn't being done.
Posted by aggressor
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:53 am to
While I am not an extremist I do think there is validity to the anti vaccination movement. The "tried and true" vaccines of MMR (Measles, Mumps, Rubella) and Polio are not really the issue. They have decades of data and have been shown to be successful. The problem is that now you have all kind of new vaccines and they are usually combined into single shots with multiple others. The body is a chemistry set and each one is different. Simply injecting dozens of vaccines into a child (often at the same time) is lunacy, especially when most of the diseases are very rare.

Autism is also just one issue, the bigger one is the drastic increase in auto immune diseases the country has been experiencing in the last few decades (Type 1 Diabetes, Lupus, Celiac, etc.) . Auto immune diseases are caused by a virus that your body encounters and when battling that virus it attacks itself. The more viruses you are exposed to the more likely you are to get an auto immune disease.

I used to make fun of vaccine deniers. That was until on my son's 5th birthday he developed Type 1 Diabetes despite both my wife and I having no history of it in our families. It happened 6 months after he had a bad reaction to getting multiple vaccinations including some "cocktails" of new ones our Dr recommended "just to be safe". Is that why he got it? Who knows, but it does make me wonder. I have a good buddy who is an AF pilot who has health issues and will get disability and they are directly tied to getting loaded with vaccines by the AF because he traveled to lots of 3rd world countries. Most vaccines are viruses of some kind, they can have a positive affect but they can also have a negative one. Same thing goes with getting a flu shot every year. Often times being vaccinated means you get to be part of the experiment to see if it works, only you don't realize it. Medical science is always advancing, things we did 30 years ago are looked upon as crazy today and vice versa.

The point is be aware of what you put in your body and your children's bodies and make an informed choice. Vaccines have done great things to advance society but they are very powerful medical weapons that should be used with care. Just injecting a body with dozens of them may not be the best choice for everyone.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:53 am to
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What is it with conspiracy theorists and their inability to provide proof that isn't 10+ minute video


The documents are provided. Why do you try to dismiss things that make you uncomfortable with labels instead of looking at the information?
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:53 am to
yeah I lucked out. I felt guilty when I would go see my therapist and see the kids in the lobby who weren't so lucky...but at the same time those kids are fricking geniuses.

my only problem is this:

I don't worry myself about social stuff and i'm a cocksucker that everyone hates and is offended by

I try to be mindful and interact properly and i'm a fricking creepy weirdo.


so yeah, i'm lucky
Posted by DelU249
Austria
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:54 am to
because if it's both that means you're riddled with STDs
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:57 am to
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False. There no scientific safety tests required. The tests done are the new vaccine vs either an old vaccine or a plain adjuvent that includes toxins like aluminum or other undisclosed elements.

A scientific safety test requires the testing be done vs an actual PLACEBO. Science deniers claim this is unethical.


During phase 1 testing (after the vaccines have been tested in animal models already) they are tested vs placebo on non-demographic individuals (aka not children) purely for safety and not efficacy.

Your posts are complete fabrications
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:00 pm to
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You clearly either don't know what a scientific safety test is or you don't know what a placebo is because it is the absolute truth it isn't being done.


That's interesting, because I was one of the subjects in a stage one clinical trial of a vaccine study my junior year at A&M. Placebo vs vaccine, tested for safety.

Being that I'm not a moron, it was an easy $200.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:02 pm to
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That's interesting, because I was one of the subjects in a stage one clinical trial of a vaccine study my junior year at A&M. Placebo vs vaccine, tested for safety.

Being that I'm not a moron, it was an easy $200.
You only think you were in a clinical trial. In actuality everyone involved was a crisis actor.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:03 pm to
Most of your post is incorrect, physiologically speaking.
This post was edited on 1/10/17 at 12:04 pm
Posted by theenemy
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:07 pm to
Northwest Arkansas has a large liberal population as well.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:11 pm to
Trump meeting with designated hitter skeptic.
LINK
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:43 pm to
Oh boy.
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Outspoken vaccine critic Robert Kennedy Jr. has accepted a position within Donald Trump’s administration as chair of a panel on vaccine safety and scientific integrity — the clearest sign yet of the president-elect’s suspicions about vaccines.
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This post was edited on 1/10/17 at 1:44 pm
Posted by TBoy
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:50 pm to
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Now the left is trashing the Kennedys?


In fairness, public health advocates trash the likes of Jenny McCarthy for this kind of crap, and she looks stunning naked.
Posted by TBoy
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:51 pm to
And if Trump is going to campaign against vaccines, he does want to kill people.
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:59 pm to
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Outspoken vaccine critic Robert Kennedy Jr. has accepted a position within Donald Trump’s administration as chair of a panel on vaccine safety and scientific integrity — the clearest sign yet of the president-elect’s suspicions about vaccines.


Posted by TN Bhoy
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Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 2:02 pm to
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Outspoken vaccine critic Robert Kennedy Jr. has accepted a position within Donald Trump’s administration as chair of a panel on vaccine safety and scientific integrity — the clearest sign yet of the president-elect’s suspicions about vaccines.


FFS.
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