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re: Trump and the vaccine
Posted on 5/8/23 at 12:55 pm to GumboPot
Posted on 5/8/23 at 12:55 pm to GumboPot
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Try a little logic and nuance going forward.
Everyone agreed at the time the fastest way out of the pandemic was through the vaccine.
Trump isn't culpable for the development of shitty vaccines, but it's okay to criticize him for the legal immunity given big pharma and all the cash he threw at them.
That said, the real criticism relates to Trump's role in creating the environment where a vaccine was deemed necessary to "save us" or "get us out" of the pandemic. The fact is the CDC/NIH led the country into the ditch with lies, distortions, bad science - it was a political effort far more so than it was about the virus or anybody's health.
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Posted on 5/8/23 at 12:56 pm to GumboPot
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They did not know Fauci was lying to them AT THE TIME.
I don’t see any way this is possible, unless his team was filled with actual retards, which would also be an indictment of Trump’s ability to fill a staff.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 12:57 pm to David_DJS
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Trump isn't culpable for the development of shitty vaccines, but it's okay to criticize him for the legal immunity given big pharma and all the cash he threw at them.
100%
Posted on 5/8/23 at 1:04 pm to Roughneck2020
Trump didn't do any executive orders trying to force anyone to get the vaccine. That's the difference.
He can offer an opinion about something, even a misguided/uniformed opinion, and be wrong about the facts. An acknowledgement of that mistake would be great, but it's no skin off my nose if someone has a wrong idea if they aren't trying to force me to do something.
Trump also loves Big Macs and I don't; I couldn't care less because never tried to make me eat one.
He can offer an opinion about something, even a misguided/uniformed opinion, and be wrong about the facts. An acknowledgement of that mistake would be great, but it's no skin off my nose if someone has a wrong idea if they aren't trying to force me to do something.
Trump also loves Big Macs and I don't; I couldn't care less because never tried to make me eat one.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 1:07 pm to GumboPot
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What about DeSantis pushing the vaccine?
DeSantis did recommend the vaccine AND he took the vaccine AND a booster.
I am OK with him doing all of that as long as he does not try to impose a mandate. That's just another reason why I never will vote for a Democrat.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 2:56 pm to GumboPot
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DeSantis did recommend the vaccine AND he took the vaccine AND a booster.
Doesn't count to the DeSantis bros.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 2:56 pm to Roughneck2020
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Trump pushing and bragging about the vaccine should disqualify him from consideration by any freedom loving American. He used very poor judgment and showed horrible leadership throughout the whole process.
Dumbass.
He never once pushed a mandate.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 3:02 pm to Roughneck2020
There needs to be Nuremberg style trials regarding COVID. Fauci and Trump should be at the top of the list of people held responsible. Why people on this board let him skate on his personal responsibility is amazing to me. One poster actually tried to claim that he had to do something 'politically' or else he would have been roasted in the polls...... 
Posted on 5/8/23 at 3:19 pm to Roughneck2020
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Y’all must be multi-boosted
Wrong.
Trump nor anyone else could convince me to get this poison. Quit looking for someone to blame.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 4:06 pm to Roughneck2020
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Trump pushing and bragging about the vaccine should disqualify him from consideration by any freedom loving American. He used very poor judgment and showed horrible leadership throughout the whole process.
He had a chance to issue an Executive Order that threatens the livelihood of others if they didn’t get vaxxed.
He chose not to. He chose freedom.
An authoritarian dictator said frick freedom and millions cheered him and judges enabled him.
Put me down for Team Freedom. You coming? Or will you be “helping” others board the train cars?
This post was edited on 5/8/23 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 5/8/23 at 4:13 pm to momentoftruth87
Aggie....
Posted on 5/8/23 at 4:44 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Everything is forgivable when forced to choose between whoever and a Democrat.
Why does anybody still think there is a difference and why does anyone think voting still matters is the question.
Trump presided over the lockdown. He is the founding father or should we say the founding pharma of the vaccines. Stop giving him a pass for it. It’s his fault. Look at what trump is and not what you want him to be or think he should be.
This post was edited on 5/8/23 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 5/8/23 at 4:56 pm to VolcanicTiger
The dumbass would be you. Where did I say anything about mandates? Is that your standard? You evidently think Trump did a good job because he didn’t impose mandates. No wonder you excuse him for his poor leadership during Covid. He had a deer in the headlights look. He didn’t know who or where to turn to. I halfway think Covid was released intentionally and it did to Trump exactly what they wanted it to. He didn’t pass the test. He also didn’t pass the test on election fraud. I heard it. You heard it. He said “I caught them”. He said we will see. He knew what was coming. He talked about election fraud for years. He should have caught them. He should have had the traps in place. But he didn’t. He didn’t deliver. He doesn’t deserve a second chance. He failed several big tests. Only a dumbass can not see that.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 5:01 pm to GumboPot
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You guys say we are a cult but we don't follow the cult leader's recommendations.
Yet they continue to mention "vaccines" & cult congruently w/o even realizing how idiotic they sound.
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Try a little logic and nuance going forward.
Now, that's hilarious. We know their logic doesn't pan out, but nuance always makes their head spin & totally escapes them.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 5:11 pm to Jack Carter
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What about DeSantis pushing the vaccine? Oh that doesn't count. LOL
Sure it does. Didn't he also pivot when information on vax damage began to emerge? Has Trump ever acknowledged any vax damage?
Posted on 5/8/23 at 5:26 pm to TheDudeAbides89
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Trump presided over the lockdown. He is the founding father or should we say the founding pharma of the vaccines. Stop giving him a pass for it. It’s his fault. Look at what trump is and not what you want him to be or think he should be.
Still better than a lib.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 5:33 pm to Roughneck2020
When trump didn’t stand against CONvid 1984 the biggest scam and transfer of wealth ever perpetrated on the world and all the disgusting tyranny and medical martial law that came with it was when I was done with him. Surprised more people don’t feel the same
This post was edited on 5/8/23 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 5/8/23 at 5:44 pm to Roughneck2020
I voted for Trump and will do so again. I disagree with him about the vaccine but he is not the one who tried to force me to take it. Brandon's vaccine mandates are unforgivable.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 5:49 pm to LRB1967
It’s Biden’s fault for mandating it but not trumps fault for presiding over the rushing out of an unnecessary and dangerous so called vaccine for a contagion that if you get it you’re 99.99998 percent likely to be just fine.
Biden can’t mandate it if trump stands up and says I will not allow the pharmaceutical companies to abuse their power like this now can he. Why will people give him a pass for not seeing what was happening everyone else did? There never was a reason to have a vaccine for CONvid damn it !
Unreal this stuff absolutely delusional
Biden can’t mandate it if trump stands up and says I will not allow the pharmaceutical companies to abuse their power like this now can he. Why will people give him a pass for not seeing what was happening everyone else did? There never was a reason to have a vaccine for CONvid damn it !
Unreal this stuff absolutely delusional
This post was edited on 5/8/23 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 5/8/23 at 5:53 pm to Roughneck2020
There never has been a vaccine for covid. There never should’ve been anything called a vaccine for covid. The problem with “covid” wasn’t a novel virus it was governments prescription for that which it invented, which was total control over our lives and a mass media brainwashing campaign
This post was edited on 5/8/23 at 5:54 pm
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