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re: Trigger Warning: UMC nurses in NO vote to unionize
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:37 am to VoxDawg
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:37 am to VoxDawg
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This is why I never bought into the "Women only male $0.80 on the dollar for a man doing the same job" refrain.
Because its total bullshite. Women choose work that requires little skill.
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:38 am to 4cubbies
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. I ignore people who I find abhorrent.
Ignoring your blatant willful stupidity might make someone think you have a valid point. That's not a risk we're willing to take.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:38 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I sure as frick do not.
Why do you care if other people do? You’re passionately against other people making their own decisions about their employment. Why?
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:39 am to 4cubbies
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I know you truly believe you know everything but this isn’t true.
Its absolutely true.
You folks dont believe in merit because you have no real value on the market. You take low paying jobs, then whine and complain that everyone else is passing you by.
You control your destiny, why the frick do you want some union fat cats controlling it?
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:39 am to Ribbed
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Ignoring your blatant willful stupidity might make someone think you have a valid point. That's not a risk we're willing to take.
I hope 4Commies is trolling....it's terrifying to think that someone like this works around kids.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:40 am to oogabooga68
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I hope 4Commies is trolling....it's terrifying to think that someone like this works around kids.
She's simply a self anointed activist.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:41 am to 4cubbies
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The joke?
You're the joke.
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the formation of another unionized workforce so not sure how it fell apart
Unionized nurses means a lower standard of care, lower entry requirements, and higher medical costs. Unions exist for two reasons: Leftist political power and self perpetuation. Patients aren't even a distant third.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:41 am to RogerTheShrubber
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She's simply a self anointed activist.
Yup.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:42 am to Ribbed
quote:and what point did I make that was invalid in this thread? Do you even know why you jumped on the cubbies hate bandwagon here? What did I post that was so stupid? Be specific.
ur blatant willful stupidity might make someone think you have a valid point. That's not a risk we're willing to take.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:43 am to GoAwayImBaitn
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It was done for many years before CEOs entered the picture and drove the costs of your care way up
Again, if you think the salary of any CEO in the country is any more than a tiny drop in the bucket, you are simply a moron. It means you've never done the math. No CEO salary in the country is driving the cost of anything up.
Now, if you're talking about some other way that CEOs have supposedly driven prices up, I will listen.
I also don't know when you're talking about that hospitals didn't have CEOs. When are we talking about here? 1700?
This post was edited on 12/11/23 at 8:12 am
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:44 am to 4cubbies
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Do you even know why you jumped on the cubbies hate bandwagon here?
Super victim!
Its your positions. Theyre really stupid and make no logical sense..
This post was edited on 12/11/23 at 7:44 am
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:44 am to Ribbed
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and higher medical costs
Is your claim that hospitals with non-unionized nurses charge less for services than unionized hospitals?
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:46 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Self-governance or shared governance would be fine. In the US medical model where only non-MD groups can legally own Hospitals, neither is an option. Instead we are left with the Pete Novembers of the world "running things," but with no training in healthcare provision, no clue about quality care nor any incentive to encourage it, and no idea as to how to bring it about even if they wanted to try.
People take jobs knowing pay, want to unionize when they become unsatisfied with that pay they agreed to.
Not the most thoughtful bunch for sure. I suppose self governing is out of the question for them.
As stated previously, "Hosp Admins are compensated for numbers. If they can generate better numbers hiring non-English-speaking locum RNs migrants from Sri Lanka, they'll do just that, quality be damned."
So while RNs signed up for a comp package, Hospital Admins dramatically and stupidly altered their work environment.
This post was edited on 12/11/23 at 7:48 am
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:46 am to 4cubbies
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Ochsner’s CEO makes more than $6 million a year.
So do half the college football coaches. Your point?
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:46 am to Ribbed
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Unionized nurses means a lower standard of care,
Managing union personnel is like managing teenagers. So much entitlement for such little output.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:47 am to 4cubbies
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o you even know why you jumped on the cubbies hate bandwago
Oh, boy. And now she's a victim.
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Unionized nurses means a lower standard of care, lower entry requirements, and higher medical costs. Unions exist for two reasons: Leftist political power and self perpetuation. Patients aren't even a distant third.
You claim this as a success because it pushes your political objectives while being contrary to your stated objectives and don't see the disconnect. But no one is going to tell you anything because you're brave, strong, and fierce. Blatant, willful stupidity.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:47 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Super victim!
Think "AggieHank" in drag.
State stupid, flaming opinions openly seeking negative feedback, THEN act all shocked when the feedback comes, play the victim, get up on your cross and play the martyr, all the while thinking you're the first person on the Internet to ever do this.....
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:48 am to RogerTheShrubber
So you are okay with getting fricked in a large organization? Because that is what you are saying. You are thinking that your direct supervisor see that ole Roger is a real go getter and he wants a few bucks more and you are thinking that based on recommendation of supervisor someone up the latter is going to give ole Rog that money?
Maybe in a smaller organization, but in behemoths like Ochsner, that determination is made by someone who does not even know the supervisor....so you get fricked on your request.
Oh, but then I will take my skills elsewhere and negotiate what I'm worth. If you are a skilled hourly worker.....good luck. The employer knows then that they collectively have you as an individual over a barrel....usually face down.
Maybe in a smaller organization, but in behemoths like Ochsner, that determination is made by someone who does not even know the supervisor....so you get fricked on your request.
Oh, but then I will take my skills elsewhere and negotiate what I'm worth. If you are a skilled hourly worker.....good luck. The employer knows then that they collectively have you as an individual over a barrel....usually face down.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:48 am to 4cubbies
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There’s a national nursing shortage. I haven’t heard about a CEO shortage yet.
There's a shortage in every industry. Biden's America.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:48 am to 4cubbies
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Is your claim that hospitals with non-unionized nurses charge less for services than unionized hospitals?
My statement is unions raise medical costs across the board.
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