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re: Trigger warning.... Do you Promethean?

Posted on 9/26/26 at 8:11 pm to
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/26/26 at 8:11 pm to
Imagine thinking you're important enough to post something this long and people read it.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
483727 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 8:20 pm to
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What a predictable dodge.


I don't know any of them promoting either, which is what made your question so awkward/weird
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
483727 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 8:23 pm to
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Imagine thinking you're important enough to post something this long and people read it.

Important enough?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28926 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 9:51 pm to
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I don't know any of them promoting either, which is what made your question so awkward/weird


I'd say good but you love playing dumb so that's not really a reassuring statement.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
159761 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 9:54 pm to
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Is this the standard Promethean video where they post short snippets from unrelated videos and do dishonest conflation and dot connecting?

1st clip: Biden autopeon joke by Trump to Xi.

SK: brings up British press criticizing Trump for making fun of Biden. Then she posts a few random X posts.

SK then claims "it went deeper". She claims the summit was attacked by Republican and Democrat senators, and posts an online news article using a Chuck Shumer quote. Not pictured: anything from Republicans

SK then claims Trump is "dismantling an imperial framework that's been in place for 50 years" by discussing the summit and a meeting of the Board of Peace

1. China: Xi Rejects the Trap

She ignores what Xi actually did in the US to discuss "Brttain's premier foreign policy outlet" posted an online discussion with the title: China Rising, American in decline? The Trump-Xi summit. She then focuses on the "rising power" quote in OP to frame the discussion as China rising and America showing struggles.

SK admits she has no evidence and comments "while she doesn't say it directly", SK claims she's "parroting the Thucydidies Trap" and then pivots to talking about Graham Allison. So let's just be sure we see what happens here. SK is ignoring what Xi did to focus on one quote from a UK outlet, and then admits she's re-framing the discussion without evidence, to talk about this person two degrees removed from the story she's claiming to be discussing.

She then tries to make Allison part of the conspiracy by saying he went to Harvard on a "British-sponsored scholarship" and was under Kissinger (2 big framing examples to prime people following this irrelevant digression). She then criticizes the TP, even though it was never brought up by anyone else except SK shoe-horning it into the discussion.

Then she shifts back to Xi, who in May 2026 did reference the TP, with Xi asking if the US and China could create a new "paradigm of major country relations". Remember, SK earlier in the video calls the TP a "badly applied analogy." Then she takes basic diplomatic language and another reference to the TP to spin this as "what was an open question is now a statement". However, she is only using part of the quote. The recent comments by Xi are still conditional and aspirational.

quote:
Mr. President, during your visit to China this year, we agreed to build a constructive China-U.S. relationship of strategic stability, and this is widely welcomed by the people of our two countries and the international community. I am ready to work with you to steer the giant ship of China-U.S. relationship on a steady course toward the future.


quote:
-- We should coexist in peace. As I have said many times, China and the United States, as two major countries, stand to gain from cooperation and will both lose in confrontation. We do not need to avoid mentioning competition, but our competition should be a healthy one and should be kept within bounds. It should be a race of catching up with one another, not a wrestle in which one either wins or loses. China and the United States must hold the line of no conflict and no confrontation between us, and we can certainly find the right path for our two great countries to get along on this planet we both call home. Our two militaries should maintain regular dialogue, and improve mechanisms for crisis communication and prevention. The Thucydides Trap can be overcome.

Full transcript. Not Promethean dishonet editing

Also, what is Xi's relationship with Allison? They met at a WEF event in June 2026

After the Xi quotes out of context that she misinterprets, she does the dishonest Promethean move of taking short clips (this time of Trump at the UN which had nothing to do with China).

Then she dishonestly claims "The Empire" controlled Iran and the SOH (both lies).

Then she references Venezuela, which goes against her entire premise, as a major part of Trump engaging in Venezuela (and SA, generally) was due to direct conflict with China. So she's using examples that argue against her point.

She continues this by referencing the Greenland agreement, which was made to thwart Russia and....China.

I'm 4:42 in. I hope I've discredited this shitty video enough at this point.
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Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
6313 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 10:27 pm to
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Then problem is if you don't punish bad pols you perceive to be on your "team", then they never get better. This is why the people using emotions to trick you into not punishing them resort to emotional arguments like catastrophe syndrome


That is the “I am team libtard description and definition proposer for people that disagree with me”. Those of us that disagree with you and the karens upon us realize that if not defeated will cause the death of a country we love. I hope you can understand our distain for you and your kind. The founding fathers warned us about your mentality. Some of us are aware of these warnings. More must be awakened.
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