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Posted on 7/28/20 at 4:46 pm to
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
4278 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 4:46 pm to
Tonight on the latest episode of "American Victimhood", hear the cries of thousands of people who make 4 times the average income whine about not getting a $1200 handout from the government.

Save it man. It's just an opportunity to brag about your income to a bunch of people who couldn't care less what you make.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11869 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 4:47 pm to
quote:

You are completely refusing to admit that luck plays a role in the outcomes in life. This is truly amazing to witness.



A lot of outcomes are driven by randomness not luck.
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9583 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 4:53 pm to
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A lot of outcomes are driven by randomness not luck.



Semantics. The point is that a lot of success or lack there of is determined by factors outside of one's control.

To act like your success is solely due to being a hard worker is being willfully ignorant.

That is my whole point.
This post was edited on 7/28/20 at 4:56 pm
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 5:12 pm to
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It’s Not Easy Carrying America: No Stimulus I. Not getting a Stimulus II. Not even a PPP.



I just read a lot of stupidity in this thread.

They aren't able to comprehend what you are saying.

Most of these people on here probably don't pay Federal Income Tax because of the Child Tax Credit.

We need a flat tax (with no deductions) or a national sales tax.

I had no problem in not getting $1,200 until the idiots in D.C. decided to give it to Welfare scum and people on Social Security .

It was supposed to be a "relief" bill for working people and the self employed who got screwed because of the China Virus.

It turned into a "stimulus" package that screwed people who make this country run.

Remember tards , just because Federal Taxes comes out of your check , it doesn't mean you pay any if you get it all back (and then some) in a refund.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62612 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 5:29 pm to
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Oh look, FAMILY INCOME of $75,500.
Yes. The rest of us have been discussing household income. Try to keep up.

And your 2x multiplier doesn’t work because families have a lot more pre-tax income. Don’t conflate wages with income.

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You're right, you can earn income in lots of other ways. Too bad the vast majority of Americans basically have a tax form that lists W-2 wages and not much else
Nope. Pre tax deductions don’t count. So you’re leaving that off the top of you use hourly wages vs. income.

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Unless I'm forgetting some of the millions of people whose income is under $50K who are getting K-1s from their partnerships and LLCs.
That wouldnt matter, still rolls up under AGI.
This post was edited on 7/28/20 at 8:05 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62612 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 5:31 pm to
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The point is that a lot of success or lack there of is determined by factors outside of one's control.
Right. It’s just “luck” so the government should be able to take it.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11869 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 5:35 pm to
What proportion of bad outcomes are entirely driven by randomness? LOL
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39479 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 5:53 pm to
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Upper Middle Class whining because they're not getting stimulus checks? First of all it's really tacky. Second, you sound like a whiny entitled a-hole. Third, how fricking embarrassing for the rest of us. God help us if we've devolved to this kind of crybaby bs.


I don't think you get the point.

The point isn't that he's not getting a stimulus check.

The point is that he's disproportionately paying for yours.

Oh I get the point. I'm in the upper end of that salary range. I'm blessed, I have a fantastic career thats rapidly coming to an end. My Wife is also very well compensated for being an Attorney specializing in Real Estate and Acquisitions. I can't for the life of me understand what it takes for a person, who is very comfortable financially, to whine and complain that they're carrying society. YES WE ARE CARRYING SOCIETY. It's that unwritten covenant as a member of this society that we all pay our share. I don't like it anymore than the next guy, but there are times when shite happens, and you have to step up and be a contributing member, not get on the fricking internet , brag about how you much money you make, then whine about how being better off than 80% of the planet, is such an unfair burden. Spare me. It's classless.
This post was edited on 7/28/20 at 9:05 pm
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
12844 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 5:55 pm to
There are two types of people who don’t complain about paying taxes:

1. Those who don’t pay any.

2. Those who have so much they’re unencumbered.

You’re clearly one of those.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 6:01 pm to
I will add a third type.

Stupid people , that's people who pay a lot in taxes and have no problem propping up other people instead of taking care of their family.

It's like they value strangers more than their own family.
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9583 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 6:02 pm to
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Right. It’s just “luck” so the government should be able to take it.


Non sequitor. Why can you guys not see that things such as family you were born into, race, health status, gender, intelligence, month you were born all play a role in the outcomes in life?

It does not mean you do not need to work or sacrifice to be successful. These factors that one does not choose explains some of the difference in outcomes.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 6:07 pm to
Non sequitor. Why can you guys not see that things such as family you were born into, race, health status, gender, intelligence, month you were born all play a role in the outcomes in life?


Race & gender ????????????

frickING bullshite !

I smell a SJW

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62612 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 6:08 pm to
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Non sequitor. Why can you guys not see that things such as family you were born into, race, health status, gender, intelligence, month you were born all play a role in the outcomes in life?
Ever notice that high-income is always due to “luck”. But low income is always some one else (aka “the rich”) fault?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10700 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 6:14 pm to

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Please tell me how you chose your month and place of birth, health status and height and level of intelligence? I'll wait.


Please copy and paste those things from the list you asked about. I'll wait.

When you have to resort to lying it's pretty obvious who the dumb-arse is.

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You are completely refusing to admit that luck plays a role in the outcomes in life


Another lie.

Let me ask you this: are you in the income range that's being argued over here?

Because I am.

Just like DD, self-made, my mother taught 1st grade in a rural elementary school in Alabama and my father never went to college and managed a convenience store.

If you are not in that income range, but your premise is that inborn intelligence is what accounts for success, then how am I the idiot?
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11869 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 6:14 pm to
They could never quantify how many people are successful or unsuccessful due to "luck" it's just that it happens that's the problem.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10700 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 6:30 pm to
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Why can you guys not see that things such as family you were born into, race, health status, gender, intelligence, month you were born all play a role in the outcomes in life?


I haven't seen every post in this thread, but I don't recall anyone claiming that they weren't relevant.

Your list didn't say those things. A couple of them were mentioned, but they were mentioned in the context of very specific qualifiers (such as how they affected a career in science, which is obviously a choice).

This post was edited on 7/28/20 at 6:33 pm
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9583 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 6:35 pm to
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Let me ask you this: are you in the income range that's being argued over here?


Yes. I do very well for myself. However, unlike you, I am not too proud to admit that I was born into a family that was able to help me through school to lessen my student loan burden and I was born of above average intelligence and in good health with no physical or mental disabilities.

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Just like DD, self-made, my mother taught 1st grade in a rural elementary school in Alabama and my father never went to college and managed a convenience store.


That's awesome. Noone is trying to discount your successes in life. I am just pointing out that thinks outside your control led to your station in life.

You guys are so fricking defensive about this topic it is unbelievable.
Posted by BigB123
Texas
Member since Dec 2018
1029 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 6:38 pm to
I’m in that range for household income and I’m proud to not get a government handout. They can go eff themselves.

I also don’t give a crap if they create a 50% rate for incomes over $1M. Boohoo to all the fake Democrat socialists fat cats on Wall Street, Silicon Valley and Hollywood. These arse faces pedal that SJW crap down everyone’s mouth so they can pay the bill when their communist puppet makes it into the WH.
Posted by Arbengal
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
3442 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 6:46 pm to
Let me assure you that I can tell by your response that you don’t have a clue what rich is brother. Not a clue
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7687 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 7:02 pm to
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But we also just starting out.



maybe that explains the "LOOK AT ME" post
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