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Posted on 9/4/14 at 8:34 am to Sentrius
Posted on 9/4/14 at 8:34 am to Sentrius
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I've seen and heard more than enough of the literally same testimony from homosexuals to believe that this is accurate. Human beings aren't the only animals that engage in homosexuality, dozens upon dozens of other animals engage in it as well. Just because it's not a mainstream norm and it being rare doesn't mean it's not natural.
I have not read through the entire thread, so someone may have already responded to this...
This rational is not in an of itself a validation of being gay as being an acceptable alternative sexual preference. Cancer is naturally occurring so are we to assume that Cancer is OK, of course not!
My point is only that in and of itself this rational is not validate the homosexual lifestyle.
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Posted on 9/4/14 at 8:37 am to DelU249
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I think you can develop a taste for anything though
Annnnnd the 2014 Poli Board award for most poorly chosen wording is.........
Posted on 9/4/14 at 8:38 am to 3nOut
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this is the stupidest, dumbest, most asinine argument on the issue.
You're being bombastic and over the top - it was a relevant point IMO.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 8:41 am to C
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Probably depends on what you mean by being gay. Having homosexual thoughts isn't likely a choice no more than having heterosexual thoughts is IMO. Acting on it is a choice.
Well stated. Thank you.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 8:44 am to Scoop
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Annnnnd the 2014 Poli Board award for most poorly chosen wording is
tastes, desires, what does it matter?
you absolutely can develop new "desires"
Posted on 9/4/14 at 8:53 am to SirWinston
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You're being bombastic and over the top - it was a relevant point IMO.
no it's not. it's the worst answer possible on the topic.
animals eat their own, kill their own, crap wherever they want, have multiple sexual partners, most males take no part in rearing of their family. most that act gay drop it when there's an available female present.
humans are not animals. why in the heck do we want to equate anything we do to what animals do?
i'm not even in the gays are gross and shouldn't marry camp. quite the opposite. i even lean towards the "there are some genetic markers that incline people to be attracted to the same sex" camp.
i just hate disingenuous debate.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 8:57 am to klrstix
If you had gay desire and "choose" to repress them does that make you less gay?
Posted on 9/4/14 at 8:57 am to Scoop
quote:Nah, he was talking about stuff like vanilla ice cream
I think you can develop a taste for anything though
Annnnnd the 2014 Poli Board award for most poorly chosen wording is.........
Lord, I'pologize fer that thar!
Posted on 9/4/14 at 9:01 am to 3nOut
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humans are not animals. why in the heck do we want to equate anything we do to what animals do?
lolwut?
Posted on 9/4/14 at 9:07 am to The Spleen
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lolwut?
You know exactly what I mean you teacher nailin old fool.
We do not act like animals and it would be foolish to try to equate our morals and actions to theirs and draw a comparison.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 9:14 am to DelU249
Why would you care about the opinion of people ignorant enough to believe it is? There are probably people in remote parts of the world that believe that the world is flat. It doesn't make it so.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 9:21 am to 3nOut
Oh, figurative animal, not literal animal.
You need a little more Darwin in your life.
You need a little more Darwin in your life.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 9:23 am to VanCleef
I just know intelligent people who belligerently present the "born this way" argument as a matter of scientific fact...if they were stupid it wouldn't bother me...now I'm not talking about Toddy whose remarks made me create this thread, but I know very intelligent people who do the same god damn thing
I guess I'll always be amazed at people's resistance to the words "I DON'T KNOW"
I guess that's why I used to enjoy penn jillette's radio show so much. Very opinionated guy, but a lot of times he would say...I don't know.
I guess I'll always be amazed at people's resistance to the words "I DON'T KNOW"
I guess that's why I used to enjoy penn jillette's radio show so much. Very opinionated guy, but a lot of times he would say...I don't know.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 9:32 am to The Spleen
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You need a little more Darwin in your life.
In all of these "homosexuality" threads the "it occurs everywhere in other animals" always comes up. Do you think they know it is "homosexuality" or just acting on sexual impulse? Having a conscience is what sets humans apart from the rest of the animal kingdom. IMHO.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 9:35 am to Lg
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Do you think they know it is "homosexuality" or just acting on sexual impulse?
Sometimes it's not even primarily sexual. It's almost as facile an argument as "Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve."
Posted on 9/4/14 at 9:38 am to Lg
I don't really think that the presence of homosexuality in other animals gives any "validity" to human homosexuality. I do know that despite there being evidence of homosexual behavior in several species, homophobia is only present in one species.
Of course they're just acting on impulse. Do you think if there was no homophobia, what we know as homosexuals would freely act on their sexual impulses? That's what sex really is, and natural impulse.
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Do you think they know it is "homosexuality" or just acting on sexual impulse?
Of course they're just acting on impulse. Do you think if there was no homophobia, what we know as homosexuals would freely act on their sexual impulses? That's what sex really is, and natural impulse.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 9:38 am to DelU249
Prove that it is a choice. Let's start with when you made your choice.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 9:41 am to Green Chili Tiger
that's my point...we don't KNOW yet. And I don't believe it is a choice. I believe more often than not, it's in the blood
I'm on team Randolph
however, I will say heterosexuality has a lot more going on for it in the evidence department in terms of evidence...human biology and the proliferation of our species and what not.
I'm on team Randolph
however, I will say heterosexuality has a lot more going on for it in the evidence department in terms of evidence...human biology and the proliferation of our species and what not.
This post was edited on 9/4/14 at 9:42 am
Posted on 9/4/14 at 9:44 am to DelU249
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that's my point...we don't KNOW yet.
I can't speak for everyone, I just know that my heterosexuality was not a choice so why would I assume it was a choice for anyone else?
Posted on 9/4/14 at 9:45 am to The Spleen
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Do you think if there was no homophobia, what we know as homosexuals would freely act on their sexual impulses?
This applies to everything, doesn't it? Murder? Adultery? Lying? Stealing?
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That's what sex really is, and natural impulse.
A natural impulse to procreate.
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