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re: Too bad this Afghanistan debacle didn't happen under Trump..

Posted on 8/18/21 at 2:48 pm to
Posted by Townedrunkard
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 2:48 pm to
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8 months. Biden signed a 100 EO's to undo everything possible that Trump did while President....but somehow this one just couldn't be touched.


Love telling this to dems that try to blame this all on Trump. He undid everything humanly possible that Trump did his first couple days, he’s in charge this is 100% on him and what he wanted….
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 2:48 pm to
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If you can’t see how collective choices lead to end results then I can’t help you.


I lay even blame on our presidents over the last 20 full years. We should've never been over there for that long.

I lay total blame for the choices Biden has made relative to the withdrawal. The timing he chose and they way he chose to pull out troops while leaving over 10,000 Americans unprotected and chose to sneak out without informing our allies. I blame him unequivocally for hiding out at Camp David while Afghanistan fell to the Taliban. I blame him for choosing to finally give a presser where he read a teleprompter and chose to bolt back to Camp David rather than answer even one question.

He's done nothing in the last 6 days but cower down and hide out rather than face his own citizens and at minimum provide some assurance and a plan to bring our Americans (trying to live in a war zone) safely home.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 2:50 pm to
“After the election was called he delayed giving briefings to the Biden team…fact! “


^^^^^^
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 2:51 pm
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 2:52 pm to


The dotted line is May 1st. Orange color is districts controlled by the Taliban.

LINK
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 2:54 pm
Posted by Tigertoof
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 2:53 pm to
Wow…very aware of that. Holding him accountable doesn’t only take place while you’re President. We can still so after someone leaves office. It’s called reflection.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 2:53 pm to
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Wow…very aware of that. Holding him accountable doesn’t only take place while you’re President. We can still so after someone leaves office. It’s called deflection.



Might as well blame Kennedy while we're at it.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 2:55 pm to
Biden’s Sec-Def just said retro grading ourselves does nothing to help lol
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 2:56 pm to
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Biden’s Sec-Def just said retro grading ourselves does nothing to help lol




Doesn't he know that we should be blaming 32 previous Presidents?
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 2:58 pm to
Yesterday they were blaming the Afghan citizens so anyone if fair game as long as it’s not the admin.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:00 pm to
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Yesterday they were blaming the Afghan citizens so anyone if fair game as long as it’s not the admin.


Didn't you hear? You and I both share some of the blame. There's plenty enough for everyone.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:01 pm to
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Polling shows public siding with Biden on Afghanistan (for now)






Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:02 pm to
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called deflection.



fify
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:04 pm to
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“After the election was called he delayed giving briefings to the Biden team…fact! “
It is August...fact.

Was Biden receiving briefings after Jan2021?

Posted by Kraut Dawg
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:08 pm to
This post was edited on 9/18/21 at 2:46 am
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:08 pm to
Lol seems to be the new norm
Posted by Tigertoof
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:10 pm to
It’s not deletion if I called Biden out as well.
Posted by Tigertoof
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:16 pm to
LINK
This dates back to 2018 where you can see Taliban making major advancements.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:21 pm to
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It’s not deletion



Never said it was
Posted by Tigertoof
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Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:23 pm to
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You want to blame everyone else more & Joe Biden only a little. Biden's team knew about the potential & said it wouldn't happen so quickly. They were wrong. And now they're being a "coward" by not owning up to their being wrong.


Seriously??? You’re just making things up. I never once said Biden should only receive a little blame. Biden deserves blame for his part in this collective outcome. What you can’t admit is that he’s not the only one that deserves blame.
Posted by nuwaydawg
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 4:37 pm to
Toof, love your persistence.
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