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re: Todays political climate proves my hypothesis that we entered WW2 on the wrong side
Posted on 8/11/24 at 11:41 am to Draco Malfoy
Posted on 8/11/24 at 11:41 am to Draco Malfoy
Now I know why there was so much support for Hitler in the US. Thank God it didn't happen, or you would have been living in a holocaust like camp with your inbred wife!!
Posted on 8/11/24 at 11:50 am to Draco Malfoy
[quote]could easily invade here afterwards.
You realize they had U-boats off the coast of New Jersey among other places right?
You realize they had U-boats off the coast of New Jersey among other places right?
Posted on 8/11/24 at 12:32 pm to Cuz413
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You do realize Germany hadn't crossed the English Channel and invaded England. The English Channel, a body of water humans have swam across. And yet, you and so many believe they would have just loaded up on ships and crossed the Atlantic to invoke a broad invasion on US soil? Come on man.
Their goal was world conquest. They likely invade the central American nations then easily take Mexico. Now they have a foothold to invade over land.
Again, this is due to us staying neutral and not having a capable military. And England going fast and us not having access to Enigma and other secrets learned.
Germany would have had the whole of Europe resources to pilfer including prisoner labor. We were pacifists leading up to war and its said we allowed Pearly Harbor to get minds changed to get in the war.
Assuming that doesn’t happen Germany and Japan would have taken over the rest of world in short order. Then focused on the US and all of Americas. Imagine Japan not challenged then once China and Australia and rest of Asia is theirs. Germany has all of Europe and Africa and Russia. Japan can take Alaska and get a foothold to go into Canada. Germany from Central America to Mexico. German Subs never taken out due to England and not getting Enigma means they can keep our fleets bottled.
Also, them not invading England was another Hitler tactical error. He wanted to do it by air when he could have done it by sea. This allowed England to decimate his air force but it was close and England was down to last fighters when Hitler changed to city bombing vs airfields. But the Brits had help from US just like Russia did. If we stay neutral that help never comes.
This post was edited on 8/11/24 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 8/11/24 at 12:56 pm to OU81TOO
There's a story of a German UBoat sunk in the Gulf that whe they sunk it the debris included food wrappers of Products only sold in New Orleans at the time
Posted on 8/11/24 at 1:00 pm to OMLandshark
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So frick the Nazis including Nazi scumbags like crazy4lsu.
Can you explain this for those of us that don’t know the backstory
Posted on 8/11/24 at 2:50 pm to OU Guy
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The problem with your argument is many. We hardly had a military and if we stay out we never build it. Then Germany takes over that part of world and could easily invade here afterwards. Or Hitler gets the bomb and blackmails us to surrender. And don’t forget about Japan they were allies of Germany but made enemies of us.
Yeah, the perfect move would have been for us to let Germany and Russia duke it out, sent our allies (the UK) just enough weapons to help weaken Germany a little while we fought Japan, built our military, and developed the A bomb...
Then we could have easily taken on the wounded winner of Germany vs Russia, or both of them at the same time, whether they wanted a scrap or not...
Posted on 8/11/24 at 3:22 pm to Draco Malfoy
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We should have remained completely neutral in WW2 and let Europe to its own devices. The Nazis would have eradicated communism then eventually imploded.
Probably shouldn't have done anything to help the USSR, but the Roosevelt administration was riddled with Communists. Had the Nazis defeated the Soviets, they would have been like a python trying to swallow an elephant.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 4:53 pm to Ricardo
The mean average IQ of her racial ancestry is 68. That is legally retarded in the US
This post was edited on 8/11/24 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 8/11/24 at 4:59 pm to Draco Malfoy
WW2 was all about the globalists gaining control. This world went to hell once it was over.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 5:00 pm to Draco Malfoy
You realize we got attacked right??
Posted on 8/11/24 at 5:05 pm to OU Guy
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Their goal was world conquest.
Wrong.
Hitler wanted Europe, not the world. He even had hesitations and doubts about a potential invasion of England because he saw the British Empire as a stabilizing force in the world. He secretly wanted to make peace with them so they could help him in his struggle with what he thought was the world's true mortal enemy: the Jewish Bolshevism of the Soviet Union.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 5:07 pm to Nighttrainlane76
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it’s now obvious FDR let it happen
It is not.
We knew in the hours prior to Pearl Harbor that the Japanese were about to strike due to our successful cracking of their diplomatic codes. However, we didn't know where. The prevailing wisdom was the Philippines as that was closest to what they wanted: the oil of the Dutch East Indies. However, there was a failure of imagination on the part of our military to include Pearl Harbor as a likely target the Japanese might exploit. The main reason being that it was a shallow harbor and thus "invulnerable" to torpedo attack.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 5:08 pm to Draco Malfoy
Isolationism was always the right policy. The founders had it right. “Alliances with none. Trade with all”.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 5:12 pm to SmartMoney 1988
The winners write history, which is clearly noted about WW2. KGB defectors years after WW2 confirmed Stalin was working on plans to attack Germany before Operation Barbarossa took place. England and France declared war on Germany first, Hitler did not want to go to war with England. Hitler's anger, as well as that of the German people, was toward France for the harsh surrender terms following WW1, which was devastating to the German economy. Hitler was a WW1 soldier, a brave one at that, so he knew the terms all so well. Hitler had no plans to truly attack America, he only declared war to give the Japanese backing and so that he could go forward with destruction of U.S. shipping to Great Britain. Socialist FDR pushed Germany into a position, just like he did with Japan. Hitler was not insane, drugged up? Yes, but I do not see him as the demon books make him out to be. Yes, he had hatred for the Jews but hasn't that been an issue through history and even today? But Heinrich Himmler was the one that started the execution of Jews, to which Hitler just turned his back on. But there was never any questions that besides the Jews, gypsies, gays and mentally ill, Hitler loved the German people.
Stalin on the other hand, was a ruthless killer of anyone, killed millions of his own people without a care in the world. Why did Stalin get a pass on attacking Poland and Finland? And let's not forget Russia declaring war on Japan right before the end so that they could take territory? We were duped into helping the Communists, a fatal mistake that has played out even to today...
Stalin on the other hand, was a ruthless killer of anyone, killed millions of his own people without a care in the world. Why did Stalin get a pass on attacking Poland and Finland? And let's not forget Russia declaring war on Japan right before the end so that they could take territory? We were duped into helping the Communists, a fatal mistake that has played out even to today...
Posted on 8/11/24 at 7:21 pm to Tiger in Texas
Guess what? When your underlings committ atrocities, you turn your back and allow it to continue, then Sparky, you are just as guilty. You cannot sluff it off on Himmler and say it was his fault and overexuberent SS folks.
The fish rots from the head down.
Also what was Roosevelt supposed to do? Ignore Japanese atrocities in China and reward them by selling them aviation fuel so as to continue the atrocities. The US and the Dutch were supplying the fuel
The fish rots from the head down.
Also what was Roosevelt supposed to do? Ignore Japanese atrocities in China and reward them by selling them aviation fuel so as to continue the atrocities. The US and the Dutch were supplying the fuel
Posted on 8/11/24 at 7:29 pm to Draco Malfoy
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Todays political climate proves my hypothesis that we entered WW2 on the wrong side
No we were on the right side, but we should have gone to Berlin and Central Europe in the end and pushed the Soviets back to the Ukraine. Patton got it right.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 7:33 pm to OBReb6
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War started over the sanctity of Poland’s sovereignty
War ended with Poland occupied by the Soviet Union
Such is life with Soviet Union
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