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re: To those worried about gas prices

Posted on 7/23/26 at 9:51 pm to
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 9:51 pm to
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You know what else will raise gas prices? Permanent IRGC control of the SOH


The part that confuses me is I was told months ago that Iran’s military was totally decimated and obliterated. Was that not true?? Because it seems odd that a country that had its military obliterated could control the Strait and disrupt gas prices across the globe.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 10:05 pm to
“Iran’s key enrichment facilities have been completely and totally obliterated.” That’s the “obliterated” quote. What would you say is the difference between “key enrichment facilities” in the quote, and “the Iranian nuclear program,” as you and your buddies say?


You bunch of damn fools.


Oh, and do yourself a favor and look up the definition(s) of “decimated.”
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 10:10 pm to
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“Iran’s key enrichment facilities have been completely and totally obliterated.” That’s the “obliterated” quote. What would you say is the difference between “key enrichment facilities” in the quote, and “the Iranian nuclear program,” as you and your buddies say?


You bunch of damn fools.


Let's revisit that shall we?

Iran's nuclear facilities have been obliterated and to suggest otherwise is fake news (Whitehouse.gov)

quote:

President Trump: “Monumental Damage was done to all Nuclear sites in Iran, as shown by satellite images. Obliteration is an accurate term! The white structure shown is deeply imbedded into the rock, with even its roof well below ground level, and completely shielded from flame. The biggest damage took place far below ground level. Bullseye!!!”

I can understand their confusion

Posted by davyjones
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Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 10:18 pm to
Ya know, when you (generic “you,” not you “you”) constantly strut and crow very loudly about a seemingly ultimate Trump gotcha and adopt it as an ole reliable fallback that can’t be overtopped, they may wanna at least give 3 minutes to making sure they aren’t making fools of themselves. Because, once again, IMO that gives me license to assume the same of anything and everything they say of the same nature.
This post was edited on 7/23/26 at 10:21 pm
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
9326 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 10:23 pm to
Moron apologist for Trump’s lies. He was quoted as saying “We have already destroyed 100% of Iran’s military capability.” Direct quote. Has also said “We've beaten and completely decimated Iran.” He has also said, “Tonight, Iran's navy is gone. Their air force is in ruins.” Again direct quote. Yet they can control the Strait. Fascinating.
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
2475 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 10:27 pm to
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Moron apologist for Trump’s lies. He was quoted as saying “We have already destroyed 100% of Iran’s military capability.” Direct quote. Has also said “We've beaten and completely decimated Iran.” He has also said, “Tonight, Iran's navy is gone. Their air force is in ruins.” Again direct quote. Yet they can control the Strait. Fascinating.


You’ve got him now. He said words.

I for one am just grateful you can actually decipher and repeat the words he said. Our last Dear Leader was typically quoted as saying : “ fha fntisnd sjrns. Double chocolate chip dhakfirnajrns t”. Before wandering off and falling on his arse.
Posted by davyjones
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Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 10:28 pm to
This is where the concept of damage to credibility comes into play, for anyone who concerns themselves about such. Right then would’ve been the ideal time to actually cite the quote(s), but that didn’t happen so I have no reason to change my position. I guess there’s still opportunity.

But until such time, as I stated hereinabove, your credibility isn’t currently working in your favor to “win” on that point.
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
9326 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 10:33 pm to
Are you actually disputing he said these things?? Is that what you’re reduced to? Pathetic. You can google fifty quotes from Trump exactly like that. And the sad part is you know it.
Posted by davyjones
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Member since Feb 2019
37302 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 10:40 pm to
You have no clue what his exact words were, much less any critical context - you simply heard some other buffoon say it, you liked it, and of course took it as your own. But hey, if you aren’t aware of the importance of precise and accurate words when you’re attempting to trash him on claims of things he stated, it may be kind of important to know exactly what he said.
Posted by Dawglovertoo
Member since Mar 2026
781 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 10:45 pm to
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Everything was fine and SOH was fine 2 years ago.


Everything hasn't been fine for 47 years.
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
9326 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 10:47 pm to
Prime time address to the nation on April 1, 2026 (in fairness it was April Fools day, if you’re looking for your next excuse to justify the lies), where he said “We've beaten and completely decimated Iran," then saying "They are decimated, both militarily and economically and in every other way." Later in the speech he said “Tonight, Iran's navy is gone. Their air force is in ruins,". These again are direct quotes from him in his speech. Spin away lemming.
Posted by Beef Supreme
Member since Apr 2008
2475 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 10:52 pm to
quote:

You’ve got him now. He said words.

I for one am just grateful you can actually decipher and repeat the words he said. Our last Dear Leader was typically quoted as saying : “ fha fntisnd sjrns. Double chocolate chip dhakfirnajrns t”. Before wandering off and falling on his arse.


Pointing out Biden's faults doesn't absolve Trump of criticism.

"Yeah my wife cheats on me but my last wife cheated on me twice as much... so I'm not gonna complain!"
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
37302 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 10:56 pm to
You can play goalpost moving by yourself.

But for what it’s worth, and to remind others, one of yall’s primary arguments against the situation, not to mention a super duper gotcha, is that the situation is completely illegitimate because the nuclear weapons program is 1a as far as Trump’s primary reasons for our involvement……to which yall say “Hardy harr, thought the entire program was “decimated” (for good, presumably), yet that’s not true. And it’s not hard to verify. This is made infinitely worse due to the sheer numbers of others who parrot same.
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
9326 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 11:05 pm to
I could learn from you about moving goalposts for sure. You claim I can’t give direct quotes. I give you them from a prime time address to the nation, where he unequivocally claims their military was left in ruins. But please just ignore that. Pathetic and sad, but utterly predictable.
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
2475 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 11:07 pm to
quote:

Pointing out Biden's faults doesn't absolve Trump of criticism.


You’re right it doesn’t. But it’s fun and entertaining to do

And it makes fun of the guy who wants to place 4-5 of Trumps quotes about Iran into a run on sentence like he’s somehow won the internet for the day

Wow. Trump said we decimated somebody and yet we didn’t decimate the. He said their navy is gone but there’s still a few bass boats around

We should really impeach him, again, for using words.
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
2475 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 11:10 pm to
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unequivocally


He’s egregious. Salacious. Self aggrandizing (said in Jackie Childs voice)


UNEQUIVOCALLY! He said words. And you quoted them all! He claimed their military was in ruins! And they still have some stuff left! You’ve got him

A grateful nation is in your debt.

The really unusual part here is that he’s historically not been known in his public life for overstating, repeating, or selling his position. Dating back almost 50 years. I bet this really shocks all the 3x voters.
This post was edited on 7/23/26 at 11:14 pm
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
37302 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 11:16 pm to
No, you said “totally obliterated and decimated,” not so stealthily suggesting if they’re still holding out in the SOH, gosh, he must have been lying or stupid or something, because how can Iran do that without a military? Play dumb about it all you want, but you’re one of many on here who are running with the same exact gotcha.

Once again, your problem, right there for all to see, is that at no time did he say “totally”. But you took the liberty to do so. You do know what “totally” means, right? I think it’s fair to assume you do, since you chose to use that term (very much on purpose).
This post was edited on 7/23/26 at 11:21 pm
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
2475 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 11:23 pm to
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but you’re one of many on here who are running with the same exact gotcha.


Again, this is the best they can do. Their party has been broken and taken over by socialist.

They’ve got

The ballroom
The reflecting pool
Epstein bullshite
Gas prices, for now
And gotcha attempts suited for 8 year olds (combined with cheerleading for a lying terrorist regime of a country over their own)


It’s a broken group. From here all you can do is ridicule and laugh at the buffoonery.
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
9326 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 11:35 pm to
quote:

No, you said “totally obliterated and decimated,” not so stealthily suggesting if they’re still holding out in the SOH, gosh, he must have been lying or stupid or something, because how can Iran do that without a military? Play dumb about it all you want, but you’re one of many on here who are running with the same exact gotcha. Once again, your problem, right there for all to see, is that at no time did he say “totally”.


It’s so sad (but again predictable) to see you just ignore what’s written; he said “We've beaten and completely decimated Iran.” So your problem is he didn’t say “totally”, as if that’s different from “completely”. It’s hard to believe this is serious. Now this is quite clearly TDS at its best.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175339 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 11:38 pm to
quote:

Ya know, when you (generic “you,” not you “you”) constantly strut and crow very loudly about a seemingly ultimate Trump gotcha and adopt it as an ole reliable fallback that can’t be overtopped, they may wanna at least give 3 minutes to making sure they aren’t making fools of themselves. Because, once again, IMO that gives me license to assume the same of anything and everything they say of the same nature.

Blaming your own ineptitude on other people is wild
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