re: To those who want to "do something" about gun deaths

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Also, I read through the points on this page.

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To the current issues:

Demanding the increase of the legal driving age to 18 (presumably to catch up with the increased drinking age that they're responsible for)……..STUPIDITY

Demanding the institution of progressively less restrictive learners' permits for new drivers, but ending the practice of issuing one-year learners' permits at (depending on the state) age 15 or 16 - they want the minimum age raised to 18...….HOW THE frick DO WE NEED MADD FOR THIS?

Demanding laws prohibiting drivers under 21 from carrying passengers under 21, or from driving without somebody 21 or over in the car to supervise.[4]………..THIS IS frickING RETARDED ON STEROIDS

Demanding a "zero tolerance" view of underage drinking, such as criminal prosecution of parents who serve a glass of wine to an 18, 19 or 20 year old at dinner.[5]…...frick THEM AND THE TOTALITARIAN HORSE THEY'RE RIDING ON

Demanding ignition interlocks for all drivers who've ever been convicted of DWI/DUI.[6]…...EVER? I MEAN, I'M ON BOARD FOR JUST CONVICTED...…...BUT EVER? THIS GOES TO THEIR WHOLE GROSSLY DEMONIZING APPROACH. frick THEM.

Opposing any attempts to return the drinking age to 18 (the legal age of majority in the United States for joining the military (or being drafted), voting, and nearly everything else, as well as the drinking age in nearly every country in the world). Actually this isn't quite accurate: MADD gives this issue the "this isn't even up for debate because it legitimizes their view" treatment.[7]…...STUPIDITY. THEIR LOGIC COULD BE APPLIED TO RAISING IT TO 30. WHY NOT?

Issuing a press release denouncing the video game Grand Theft Auto IV, because it allows players to drink and drive (even though the game made it impossible to drive well by actually simulating some of the real-life effects of alcohol, which seems like a good thing for MADD's agenda).[8]……….THIS IS HONESTLY JUST SAD

Supporting random police roadblocks and sobriety checkpoints.[9]…………….REALLLLLLLLLLLY JUST frick THEM. frick THEM WITH A BASEBALL BAT. THESE THINGS AREN'T EVEN FOR DUI. THE VAST MAJORITY OF ARRESTS AT SUCH PLACES HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH DUI AT ALL. NOT TO MENTION THAT THE COURTS ALLOW THIS shite IS JUST ABSURD ON ITS FACE.

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I’ll take some tome to read up on it, then consider if I need to tell Adam to wind it down and find another gig.

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HE SHOULD. HE LEADS A VERY BAD ORGANIZATION EVEN IF HE'S A DECENT GUY. ALTHOUGH, HONESTLY. IF HE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LIST ABOVE, I CALL HIS GOOD GUY STATUS INTO QUESTION

He just took up the post this year.

You raise good points. The random checks thing I am less bothered by, though.

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I'm more worried about cars being picked up as the popular weapon of mass murder than I am about guns tbh.

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I'm honestly surprised this isn't happening more.

Target chosen properly, one can do a lot more instant carnage with a car or truck than a gun.

I don't bring that up as a point regarding gun control. Just noting that it's gonna be bad when these nut jobs realize that simply driving straight into the below as fast as one can will probably kill and maim more people than just trying it with a gun.

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You raise good points. The random checks thing I am less bothered by, though.

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This is actually their worst position!

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You raise good points. The random checks thing I am less bothered by, though.

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This is actually their worst position!

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From the perspective of civil liberties, Shorty is 100% correct

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Demanding a "zero tolerance" view of underage drinking, such as criminal prosecution of parents who serve a glass of wine to an 18, 19 or 20 year old at dinner.[5]…...frick THEM AND THE TOTALITARIAN HORSE THEY'RE RIDING ON

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This simply reinforces my point, to the effect that the “ultimate bad” envisioned by MADD is NOT “drunk driving,” but rather any drinking at all.

There are gun shows and everywhere you look there are guns and ammo. The atmosphere is about nothing but guns, shooting and ammo. Everyone there loves guns, shooting and are gun lovers.
Yet, no one ever takes a gun out and starts shootings up patrons at a gun show.
If guns were truly the issue, gun shows would be ground zero for mass shootings.

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This simply reinforces my point, to the effect that the “ultimate bad” in vision by MADD is NOT “drunk driving,” but rather any drinking at all.

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Yeah.

At this point, they are basically 2019's prohibitionists.

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If enough people are ignorant

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Your OP assumes that Americans at large are rational in their consideration of policies. I propose that they are not. It's not just "liberals" either, as your OP implies.

It seems that the only solution is for pro-2A people to take control of the situation. Get out in front, and either get rational legislation passed, or somehow reduce the mass murders that are driving the gun control people.

Sitting around crying in echo chambers, and otherwise bitching and moaning about principles, conspiracies (which you're NOT) and the BOR, isn't going to protect any ones rights to bear arms.

Yeah. That whole thing.