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re: To those saying Trump can’t declare Transtifa a terrorist organization

Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:21 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:21 am to
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I just think people should be very careful about throwing around that label because a Dem will use it right back.

Yes. As always, that's the primary concern.

If we ignore the limitations of government inherent in the system, then government has no limits to impact any of our lives, either.

I'm having this same discussion in the Supreme Court/FTC thread. Giving ultimate executive power to the President only sounds good when your guy is President.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:22 am to
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I just think people should be very careful about throwing around that label because a Dem will use it right back.


They already have and have never required a precedent when they want to do something.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:22 am to
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I just think people should be very careful about throwing around that label because a Dem will use it right back.


Good point. It really slowed down Biden’s pursuit of Catholics and parents of school children. We will trust your sage advice.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:23 am to
That reminds me, we hosted this guy here yesterday. What a world.
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Posted by ChineseBandit58
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:23 am to
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:23 am to
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No. It's just multiple groups operating


So is ISIS no longer a terror group? Many terror groups? Does it matter outside tactical approach?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:23 am to
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You are so full of shite

As a corollary (since there are no direct comparisons as this action by the admin is unprecedented), can you use RICO to prosecute "organized crime" or "the mob", or do you have to prosecute each individual organization and prove the inter-connected nature of that isolated family/organization?

Same conceptual difference with terrorism and Antifa (the corollary to "organized crime")
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:24 am to
Thanks!

Hey. Apropos of nothing, what does
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de facto
mean?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:26 am to
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They already have and have never required a precedent when they want to do something.


Yeah. This is one of the dumbest of reasons to be against something. As if Democrats are carefully following the Constitution and only step out of line if we give them a reason.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:27 am to
Does Goldman really not know that a few cities have antifa chapters that actually have rosters? If feds are smart, they'd target the chapter in Portland first. 5 years ago, they attacked federal buildings in Portland during the riots. And at the time, their mission statement was overthrowing the fascist government.
Posted by SlayTime
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:27 am to
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You're making a lot of assumptions and engaging in dot connecting. The law will require much more.


I’m assuming all these other nations arresting and convicting criminals who commit crimes in the name of Antifa followed the law to do so. It’s amazing how quick you liberals will call someone a klan member or a Nazi yet defend someone proudly displaying the transtifa logo and burning down anything they can.
This post was edited on 9/24/25 at 7:30 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:28 am to
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They already have

They have not.

Other than the meaningless "bankruptcy" example
This post was edited on 9/24/25 at 7:28 am
Posted by SallysHuman
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Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:28 am to
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Does Goldman really not know that a few cities have antifa chapters that actually have rosters?


Of course he knows... hell, he's probably one on himself.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:29 am to
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So is ISIS no longer a terror group?

Already covered.

Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:29 am to
Well, we will see what Kash, Dan, and Bondi are made of. I have a hard time believing these clowns are are loosely affiliated and just independently join up for the cause. There has to be central organization and funding in Portland and Seattle.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:30 am to
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I’m assuming all these other nations arresting and convicting criminals who commit crimes in the name of Antifa followed the law

Their laws =/= our laws.

These nations prosecute people for posting memes, too.

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It’s amazing how quicks you liberals with call someone a klan member or a Nazi yet defend someone proudly displaying the transtifa logo and burning down anything they can.

I expect such idiocy from a "blood and soil" type like yourself.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:31 am to
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You're making a lot of assumptions and engaging in dot connecting. The law will require much more. It's going to be hard to establish a single national organization, let alone an international one. Antifa is typically a loose connection of independent local groups. There isn't some national body giving guidance, direction, or commands.
This is so gay.

Y’all sound like sovereign citizens every time anyone wants to zoom in on a corner of leftist bullshite.

I’m not even saying you’re wrong. But the left is fricking evil and y’all run around being the ackchyually meme for them.

You cannot comprehend how fricking gay it looks.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466158 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:31 am to
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I have a hard time believing these clowns are are loosely affiliated and just independently join up for the cause. There has to be central organization and funding in Portland and Seattle.


But you kind of just argued there isn't an organization by picking out those local groups.

There are certainly a few anti-fascist organizations in each city. That's not in dispute.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66658 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:32 am to
Yeah, Biden's FBI and DOJ did everything they could to crawl up the arse of people like Proud Boys and tie it to Trump.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466158 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:33 am to
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Y’all sound like sovereign citizens every time anyone wants to zoom in on a corner of leftist bullshite.

Partisanship has nothing to do with this. Don't be dumb.

For example, there is no single national neo-Nazi organization, either. There are a lot of independent groups under the umbrella of neo-Nazi ideology.

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But the left is fricking evil and y’all run around being the ackchyually meme for them.

If you remove limitations on government to attack "the left", then you remove limitations for that government to attack you, too.

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You cannot comprehend how fricking gay it looks.

Your thought process is poisoned by partisan brain rot and too much in/out group identification and you miss the larger picture.
This post was edited on 9/24/25 at 7:34 am
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