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re: To the "you do it in the Primary, Not the general" crowd!
Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:48 am to Jjdoc
Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:48 am to Jjdoc
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We did that. And the then the GOPe pulled funding.
As Ted Cruz stated, "Masters stated he would not vote for Mitch and Mitch pulled money because Mitch is about Mitch, not the GOP and the voters".
What part of any of that did Trump, the leader of the party, not do?
They're both egomaniacal assholes that put their own feelies ahead of the good of the party/country.
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Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:51 am to David_DJS
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What part of any of that did Trump, the leader of the party, not do?
You can attempt to change it if you want. Not going to happen.
Mitch threw the election by:
1- Stating we could not win in the middle of the election
2- pulling funding.
Period.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 12:14 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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MT(G) wouldn't win WI-01 in a landslide?
I'd kick that dumb bitch out of the state myself.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 12:29 pm to Jjdoc
I tried telling you this when you were pushing taking over local party chairmanships and grass-rooting it up from there. The establishment doesn't give a shite about its base beyond destroying it when it rebels.
The republican party will die with a whimper.
The republican party will die with a whimper.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 12:40 pm to troyt37
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I tried telling you this when you were pushing taking over local party chairmanships and grass-rooting it up from there.
We are still doing it!
Posted on 11/15/22 at 12:53 pm to Jjdoc
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We are still doing it!
And when it gets big enough to be noticed, it will be crushed, just like the Tea Party, and movements like it before and since.
I understand it is not in our nature to give up, but if the republican party was fixable, it would have been fixed decades ago. They aren't the answer.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 12:55 pm to TDsngumbo
The GOP didn’t even get “destroyed” in this election cycle. The problem is Trump and his lousy hand picked candidates in key races.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 1:13 pm to N.O. via West-Cal
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The GOP didn’t even get “destroyed” in this election cycle. The problem is Trump and his lousy hand picked candidates in key races.
You aren't paying attention. The candidates nor the voters matter. Trump is running 90% for the candidates he supported, but the party apparatus can decide which candidates get money. Candidates in key races didn't get money from the party. Candidates who clearly stated they would buck the establishment and not support establishment leadership were cut off. So the party chose to be the minority in the senate over having someone who actually opposes the marxist democrat agenda in leadership.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 1:17 pm to BuckyCheese
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I'd kick that dumb bitch out of the state myself.
I dunno.
Says here she might be a better fit up there than in Georgia.
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Rosenbaum was born in Oceanside, New York and raised in Newburgh, Indiana.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 1:30 pm to Jjdoc
The UK has many parties and that works in a parliamentary system where minority parties get leverage in help to form a government.
Here, it is just a case of Ross Perot helping get Bill Clinton into the White House with a plurality.
Want to start a third party, do it as a demprog!
Here, it is just a case of Ross Perot helping get Bill Clinton into the White House with a plurality.
Want to start a third party, do it as a demprog!
Posted on 11/15/22 at 1:31 pm to troyt37
The only way I can understand your position is if you are beginning with the assumption that it’s not Trump who is the problem. Most of the candidates trump endorsed were in safe states or districts. In the close races, where it mattered most, Trump took it on the chin while more normal Republicans did very well. See AZ, FL, and so clearly in GA. It is time to move on.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 1:33 pm to Auburn1968
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The UK has many parties and that works in a parliamentary system where minority parties get leverage in help to form a government.
The UK only has two major parties with any chance of winning elections, and most governments over the last few PM's have not required coalitions. The ones that did only required tiny contributions from minor parties. The Lib Dems are a total joke.
This post was edited on 11/15/22 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 11/15/22 at 1:38 pm to N.O. via West-Cal
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The only way I can understand your position is if you are beginning with the assumption that it’s not Trump who is the problem.
It's not an assumption, it's a fact. Trump was and is more popular than any republican, in the history of republicans.
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In the close races, where it mattered most, Trump took it on the chin while more normal Republicans did very well. See AZ, FL, and so clearly in GA. It is time to move on.
You still aren't paying attention. The party withheld money from certain candidates in certain races. Stew on that one a while, and let me know how it is better to be the senate minority than to be the senate majority and have a majority leader who actually opposes the marxist democrat agenda.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 1:40 pm to troyt37
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Trump was and is more popular than any republican, in the history of republicans.
AMONG REPUBLICANS. Point being that 65% or so of the electorate are NOT REPUBLICANS.
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The party withheld money from certain candidates in certain races.
What races do you think lack of funding played a determining factor?
Posted on 11/15/22 at 1:40 pm to Jjdoc
Mitch playing politics and Masters being stupid. You want the money he controls then you tell him you are not going to support him. Then bitch about not getting the money?
Do you listen to yourself Jjbot?
Do you listen to yourself Jjbot?
Posted on 11/15/22 at 1:52 pm to Indefatigable
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AMONG REPUBLICANS. Point being that 65% or so of the electorate are NOT REPUBLICANS.
Among Americans. You know, living breathing CITIZENS of the United States. Has nothing to do with election results, because our elections are fraudulent, banana republic shite.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 2:09 pm to troyt37
Your original statement was:
Now you are saying he's more popular:
IF you can show me a single poll that shows Trump being favorable or popular among even a simple majority of Americans, I will buy what you are selling.
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Trump was and is more popular than any republican, in the history of republicans.
Now you are saying he's more popular:
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Among Americans. You know, living breathing CITIZENS of the United States.
IF you can show me a single poll that shows Trump being favorable or popular among even a simple majority of Americans, I will buy what you are selling.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 2:19 pm to Indefatigable
I don't count marxists, because they aren't Americans. Sorry. You aren't an American if you want to destroy most of the Bill of Rights, the parts of the Constitution that stand in the way of your agenda, the Supreme Court, the Electoral College, and capitalism. I don't know what you are, beyond a marxist, but it damn sure isn't an American.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 2:47 pm to BuckyCheese
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A "conservative" in the deep South is not the same as a "conservative" in the midwest or northeast.
Where don't they mesh?
Posted on 11/15/22 at 2:53 pm to KAGTASTIC
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Where don't they mesh?
Abortion is the most obvious.
The GOP candidate for WI governor was against it and the dems showed him saying so even in cases of rape and incest constantly in their ads. Lost by a point.
Being more moderate on it, like up to 15 weeks or so, and he likely wins.
Trump's endorsement didn't help either.
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