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re: To my conservative friends

Posted on 4/28/19 at 12:39 pm to
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68435 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 12:39 pm to
Can they tell you what Obama did to foster this economy?
Posted by redneck hippie
Stillwater
Member since Dec 2008
5603 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 12:39 pm to
It’s hard to argue that the economy hasn’t been ripping since April 2009. It’s been quite amazing.
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 12:41 pm to
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Which is funny considering that Obama himself said that trump calling for 3% gdp was unrealistic and irresponsible.


He also said russia wasnt an issue either. obama was such a face palm prez
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112635 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 12:47 pm to
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As of now you can't prove this.


Yes, we can. Biz con and de-reg always = econ growth.
Now, what Obama policy caused the current econ growth?
Posted by geaux88
Northshore, LA
Member since Oct 2003
16355 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

Obama did to foster this economy


Retail/service sector/burger flipper jobs are the only reason jug ear’s admin had any movement at all, albeit mostly stagnant non growth during his 8 year debacle of shame, surrender and appeasement.

Positive? I imagine the consumption of soy based foods skyrocketed exponentially by white guilt sjw nancy-boys, so soy farmers didn’t feel much pain.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 12:47 pm to
lmao! So now the narrative is that the economy is simply doing ok... yet just a few short months ago it was that the economy was doing great and that it was attributable to Obama alone.
What a joke..

quote:

The economy grew at an average rate of 2.8% per quarter in the first nine quarters of the Trump Administration compared to 1.9% in the last nine quarters under Obama. Federal economic analysts attributed most of the first quarter’s growth to increases in consumer spending, businesses building their inventories, and increased exports. The pace of economic growth is 45% higher so far in the Trump presidency than over the same timespan in Obama’s last 27 months in office.

LINK
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 12:48 pm to
They reference the stimulus. Which is an absolute joke.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 12:52 pm to
Yes, since 2009 the economy has been getting better. But to not have success following 2009 would have been amazing. We were in the midst of a massive recession caused by the policies of fairness and equality in the housing market. Anyone and everyone should have a home... remember that. And to deny anyone the ability to purchase a home was racist. So we allowed everyone to purchase a home. Thus resulting in the consequences we got in 2008. The success seen by the Obama administration is not even close to the success seen by trump. And under Obama, we were essentially giving away money for free.
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5346 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 12:59 pm to
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It’s hard to argue that the economy hasn’t been ripping since April 2009. It’s been quite amazing.


Quite amazing how Obama's recovery was the worst in US history. Even more amazing how it kicked into high gear after he left office.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54233 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

I have some left leaning friends.


What might their age range be? Secondly, what type jobs do they have and thirdly, how much money do they make.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 1:10 pm to
26-32
Mostly hr, one is in statistics.
Idk exactly, but I’d guess between $40000-$65000/ year.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 1:12 pm to
Obama has literally nowhere to go but up. So of course he had success. It’d be like a home builder who literally took an entire year to lay the foundation of a home. He’d say, well look at where I started. We’ve had immense success! When you compare Obama to literally anyone else, he’s a joke.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54233 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 1:13 pm to
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26-32


Give them about one more election and they'll change their tunes.

quote:

between $40000-$65000/ year.



Did they do better on their taxes for '18 than '16 and '17?
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 1:14 pm to
Ridicule.

The guy that scoffed at 3% as a pipe dream can't be given credit for 3%+ without ridiculous logic. Therefore, ridicule is in order.
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3138 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 2:21 pm to
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Obama said that it was unrealistic and irresponsible to call for 3% gdp.

Ah yes. Even though their savior said it wasn't possible, they want to give him the credit for it. What a joke.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105453 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 2:27 pm to
I am guessing you aren’t savvy enough to debate these friends and bring down the Orange Man thunder.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
73056 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 2:32 pm to
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is there anything that can be done to help these people understand their flawed logic?


No. Stop hanging out with morons. It will define who you are five years from now.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 2:39 pm to
I wouldn’t call it a debate. I simply asked them questions, and then using their own answers I point out their flaws logic and hypocrisy.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 2:40 pm to
I will not follow idiots.
This post was edited on 4/28/19 at 2:42 pm
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92877 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 3:09 pm to
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You’re lucky if you have five real friends your entire life


You are pathetic if you don’t
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