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re: Tired of the news and Democrats saying

Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:11 am to
Posted by AUin02
Member since Jan 2012
4280 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:11 am to
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Obama and Trump are not political rivals.

Good Lord.


Careful now, this kind of logic will you land you in the hole that Obama's IC investigating then presidential candidate Trump was illegal/unethical. If you believe them to be political rivals.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43319 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:13 am to
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Non govt. employees


And? Do you have factual evidence of what was discussed with these non-government employees?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:17 am to
quote:

You seem like a Colbert guy.
He is not much of a much as an interviewer, but the Colbert Report was the best political satire of its decade.

The funniest part was the hordes who did not recognize it as satire.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139918 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:18 am to
How could someone not know it was satire?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123839 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:20 am to
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why would hunter step down though?
His 5 year term was up. Apr'14-Apr'19.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:21 am to
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How could someone not know it was satire?
I wondered the same thing.

It was not particularly subtle, but he did such a great deadpan delivery.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123839 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:25 am to
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the Colbert Report was the best political satire of its decade.

Negative.
Not remotely close. Jon Stewart and John Oliver were both far better.
Colbert's one small flaw as a comedian is that he is not funny.
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:30 am to
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quote:
Non govt. employees


And? Do you have factual evidence of what was discussed with these non-government employees?


Yet you don’t disagree that these people are outside of the proper channels. But I suppose you’re against making the email/text communications public, seeing their notes, and interviewing these witnesses. Because you don’t want to know. Good for you.

I’m not going to think for you, though.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123839 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:52 am to
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“But he had not yet won the Dem nomination, so he was not yet a rival.”. 3...2...1...
He certainly was not the overwhelming Dem favorite.

Again though, the only ADMITTED foreign interference in the 2016 election was by Ukraine, on behalf of Hillary. Let's repeat that for the apparently slow learners here. The only admitted foreign interference in the 2016 election was by Ukraine, on behalf of Hillary.

Got it?

Yet how much investigative focus has been placed on that FACT? Zero! Nothing.

Dems classically accuse others of their own misdeeds. They classically characterize their efforts antithetically to real purpose. Dems COLLUDED with Ukraine in the 2016 election. Whether Ukraine affiliated Crowdstrike had a role in that remains to be seen. There are strong suspicions it did. Likewise, Burisma enjoyed the benefit of US aid and support. We know about Biden and Archer. We know there may have been additional money passed to Rosemont Seneca. Was US taxpayer money also laundered back to US Democrats? It seems upon conclusion of the bogus Mueller effort, those would be highly legit investigations to pursue.

Meanwhile, Ukraine had and has huge incentive to implicate Russia in nefarious activities. Ukrainian politics are basically controlled by George Soros's unfettered NABU. There is no oversight of the NABU. It can target whomever it wants, for whatever investigation it wants. In Ukraine, where innocence opposed by $1000 greasing a judge's palm equates to guilt, the NABU controls Ukraine. As we continue to send billions of US taxpayer dollars to that corrupt sewer, wouldn't it be prudent to try and get to the bottom of our own infestation in it?
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
4718 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:03 am to
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Instead of “digging up dirt” would you feel better if they said “trying to find bad things about him”?


either way is wrong. he is not trying to find anything. Its there. unlike the russian hoax and special counsel. Thats "trying to find bad things" and "digging up dirt" Trying to find something.

Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:04 am to
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There are proper channels to follow to ferret out corruption. Had they been followed, all of this could have been avoided.


You mean like having the corrupt officials on our end take care of it?

Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 11:08 am to
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Negative.
Not remotely close. Jon Stewart and John Oliver were both far better.


Big facts.
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 11:13 am to
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You mean like having the corrupt officials on our end take care of it?



I'd look to the guy that was going to drain the swamp in DC and ask him why he is so concerned about the swamp in Kiev.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32219 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 2:27 pm to
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Well, then why didn't Trump investigate Biden the 2 years before? Why did he allow Ukrainian aid to flow before then?

It's just a coincidence that as soon as Biden declares for president, this becomes a pressing issue? Yeah right.


president of Ukraine since May 2019.

Any other questions?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43319 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

Yet you don’t disagree that these people are outside of the proper channels.


No, I'm simply asking for factual evidence. You should be too.

quote:

But I suppose you’re against making the email/text communications public, seeing their notes, and interviewing these witnesses. Because you don’t want to know. Good for you.


I am for following the law. Schiff and Nadler could have used legal process to get access to all of the above, but they refused to.

Why?
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 3:13 pm to
Are you suggesting this information was not requested by the House?
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59711 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 3:15 pm to
Joe only became a candidate so he could scream persecution against a "political rival" when the new UKR President reopened the corruption investigation into the Biden gang/Burisma/etc.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43319 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 3:35 pm to
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Are you suggesting this information was not requested by the House?


It was requested by one branch of the government to another. The other branch said "let the courts decide this". The first branch decided to not pursue the correct, legal way to obtain the information.

Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 4:04 pm to
Methinks the slow timeline was a factor
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139918 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 4:09 pm to
Every sane person is tired of the Democrats.

By any means necessary is a dangerous motto and strategy.
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