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re: Time to stop ALL immigration, illegal or otherwise

Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:16 pm to
Posted by JackieTreehorn
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:16 pm to
Merit based entry only. Have to meet language and IQ along with skills testing.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:18 pm to
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ime to stop ALL immigration

Loser mentality. That's how you guarantee losing the 2026 elections.
Posted by 10thyrsr
Texas
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:19 pm to
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America needs highly qualified immigrants which we do get through our immigration system. If we shut it all down it would be a detriment to America.


Why does America need highly qualified immigrants? We should be focusing on making American children highly qualified individuals that can fill those gaps. Your post is baseless.
Posted by FoTownBam
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:20 pm to
The best way to stop it is to go after businesses that hire them. I’m not sure what they could legally do to the businesses, but I’m sure there’s something that would discourage them hiring illegals. No jobs, no money, and no reason for them to stay. Really simple solution
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:27 pm to
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Why does America need highly qualified immigrants? We should be focusing on making American children highly qualified individuals that can fill those gaps. Your post is baseless.

We regularly bring in highly qualified technical expertise when possible. We want the world's most talented working in our markets delivering value from our economy it's pretty simple.

How would you like to do that? Do you want to expand the department of education at a federal level? Provide stricter guidelines and expectations to the states that provide that education? Plenty of opportunity to gain technical skills in all trades here that Americans don't take on today, how will that magically be fixed?
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:29 pm to
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The best way to stop it is to go after businesses that hire them. I’m not sure what they could legally do to the businesses, but I’m sure there’s something that would discourage them hiring illegals. No jobs, no money, and no reason for them to stay. Really simple solution

You would really need to enforce at the same business level. Most larger companies aren't hiring illegals too much risk with it. Now this is also where it gets tricky cause the illegal branding is used on legal immigrants often such as Haitians in Ohio. They're all here legally that's how they got jobs and govt assistance everyone complains about. You really gotta penalize small business owners to stop the actual illegals which isn't a very popular position
Posted by themetalreb
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Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:31 pm to
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isolationism


Yeah, and? Time for an immigration pause. Doesn’t have to be for 5 years, maybe 3.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:35 pm to
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Yeah, and?

Would cause an economic contractions like we haven't seen since 2009 most likely....



If you want stocks down, prices up, and supply chains to get screwy that's what it would bring. We rely on legal migrant labor today who is replacing that labor?
Posted by themetalreb
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:39 pm to
I’m not calling for migrant deportation…
Posted by MMauler
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:40 pm to
in light of everything that the Democrats have put us through the last four years, that might sound good in theory,

However, if there’s another Elon Musk out there who could really contribute to America and American society, and that person has waited years and has gone through our immigration system in the correct and legal way, would you really want to keep him out for an additional five years because of all the frickery that has been pulled by the scumbag Democrats over the last 3+ years because they wanted new voters to replace real Americans?
Posted by Hogbit
Benton, AR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:41 pm to
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we have to absorb what we have and recondition the country for the next wave

How about you frick right off with this
Posted by FoTownBam
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:41 pm to
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You really gotta penalize small business owners to stop the actual illegals which isn't a very popular position

I agree it wouldn’t be popular because a lot of these business owners are Trump supporters. But it would be a lot more efficient and effective rather than hunting these folks down and bussing them to the Mexican line. Also, it would deny the media a ton of ammunition, and sob stories they would be able to use against Republicans, not that they need it. They’re going to do it anyway, but I think most voters in the middle would see this approach as a more compassionate way of handling it
Posted by Hogbit
Benton, AR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:43 pm to
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oklahogjr

You and OP can frick right off together
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:44 pm to
No. Stop the illegal. Stopping legal immigration is like a pro sports team abstaining from the draft.
Posted by Frac the world
The Centennial State
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:45 pm to
I agree but I don’t know how you’d do it. We’ve got enough infrastructure projects to last us a generation as it is.

If Trump blocked legal immigrants for his 4 years we wouldn’t get Vance in for another 8 cause this country is soft.

Even though I believe gay arse Trudeau just suspended immigrants for the same reason in Canada.
Posted by themetalreb
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:47 pm to
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Hogbit


U seem nice
Posted by AnAppleADay
Member since May 2016
137 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:52 pm to
Legal immigrants broke for Trump and your solution is to crack down on it? Not a winning message, nor a way to thank those who just made the political bet of their lives.

Legal immigration should be easier; illegal immigration should be harder. In the meantime, kill DEI and Wokeness.

That’s not only the correct political recipe, but the correct moral one.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:53 pm to
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I’m not calling for migrant deportation…

So that's the thing about migrant labor. It migrates they're here why it's harvesting season in the US and then they're in Mexico when it's harvesting seasons south of here.... Stopping immigration prevents them from coming back in when it's our harvest season and we need them
Posted by Tigerinthewoods
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 10:01 pm to
We should give illegal immigrants one month to settle their business here and get back across the border. If they remain here after one month of grace, they should be rounded up, imprisoned and place on highway work details for six months and then released back across the border. Second offenses should mean life in prison with daily highway work detail.

Then we should fix the kinks in the immigration system and enforce it.
Posted by AZHorn
Southern Arizona
Member since Aug 2021
1062 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 10:03 pm to
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Legal immigrants broke for Trump and your solution is to crack down on it? Not a winning message, nor a way to thank those who just made the political bet of their lives.


Those Latinos were most likely 3rd and 4th generation assymylated and educated American born citizens thats been voting DEM most their life until they saw the DEMs wanted to make them 2nd class citizens and replace them.. They know how this country works the same as us White European immigrant offsprings do...Wasn't much of a Bet, they voted for their own interests..
This post was edited on 11/6/24 at 10:09 pm
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