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re: Time to Open the Checkbook - Russia has finished training 300k New Troops

Posted on 6/3/23 at 10:49 pm to
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
2886 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 10:49 pm to
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can we just send them all the illegals crossing our borders?


They'd just vote absentee ballot
Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
11917 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 10:59 pm to
Again, if we were not prepared to send troops and fight Russia head on we are pissing in the wind with this proxy war shite. We could,have either called Russias bluff or gone ahead and started WW3 instead of this slow walk to WW3
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
13965 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 11:12 pm to
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Russia took back their sovereign land in Crimea and nato didnt do squat, Russia has taken back their sovereign land in what was formerly known as eastern ukraine and nato hasnt done squat.

First, NATO hasn't done squat because Ukraine isn't a NATO member and we're doing the best that we can to avoid a direct fight with Russia. I still believe that Russia's goal is to move into Poland and Romania. Ukraine itself doesn't gain Russia much. If you look at Russian military activity since the fall of the Soviet Union, they all center around securing geographic access points from which Russia has been invaded previously. Two of those access points are on the other side of Ukraine, but are in Poland and Romania. Second, Ukraine is no more sovereign Russian territory than the U.S. is sovereign British territory. They've been an independent country for over 30 years and want to remain that way.

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They will however continue to work with allies to ensure the US is invaded by millions every year

Completely separate issues. I'm capable of paying attention to both simultaneously.
Posted by Philzilla
Member since Nov 2011
1358 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 11:23 pm to
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What's Ukraine been training up lately?

When did you serve?
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19226 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 12:31 am to
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Ukrainian troops have been getting trained by NATO instructors.


Some have, they’ve attended crash courses, condensing four to six months of training, into four weeks.

But the bulk of their army has none of this training. They’ll learn some parade maneuvers, apparently empty one magazine, and get sent off to the front lines. The whole process takes three or four weeks. In a couple of cases you had men, picked off the street by conscription officers, who ended up dead a week later in Bahkmut. It’s a shite show. They were just plugging the gaps with bodies.

Valeurs Actuelles, the right wing French news magazine, said more than 40% of the French trained soldiers have stopped reporting back, and are presumed dead.

Ukraine has started conscripting men who were previously considered medically ineligible for service.

That’s not a good sign.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81634 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 12:33 am to
Lets gooooooo!

Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 5:19 am to
Is this why the debt ceiling is now open ended thru 2025?

Never really heard why that was done by McCarthy.
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 5:23 am to
Zelensky is saying they are ready now for a major counter offensive tho??
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19226 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 7:56 am to
They don’t have enough men, they don’t have enough artillery, they don’t have enough ammunition for the artillery they have, they can provided little if any air support, and their own air defense are in very bad shape. They’re using a hodge podge of western armored vehicles, which they can not repair on their own, and which they don’t have enough of either.

I think they’ve delayed the offensive because they believe they’ll just get their men killed.

They burned three good brigades north of Bahkmut, in that small offensive, going up against one Russian motorized rifle brigade, for no long term gain.

An large offensive will just repeat this on a greater scale, exposing a substantial portion of their army to destruction.
This post was edited on 6/4/23 at 7:15 pm
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13365 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 8:52 am to
Tantal,

If Europe was so scared of Russia invading they have had the last decade to rearm nato and they havent done shat. They openly laughed at Trump during his UN speech when he said they should be paying their 2% of GDP for military funding of their own armies.

They arent afraid of it and neither is the rest of the world. Its just a big money laundering excuse.

And in case you havent been paying attention, spring is over and soon to be summer.......and still no offensive by ukraine. No doubt we will now hear about the mud season. So when is this offensive to take place, Ill tell you when, never, and the bank accounts of every American are empty. And zepensky will be long gone somewhere on the French Riviera.

Oh they will make some limp effort and call it a day and blame it on the US for not enough weapons, and so will the world, and you will watch inflation continue to climb and your taxes increase....
Posted by 2020_reVISION
Richmond,VA
Member since Dec 2020
3033 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 9:23 am to
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Even if Russia takes Ukraine, their choices are to either roll into Poland and Romania and get their dicks slapped by NATO, or stay put in Ukraine and fight a NATO-funded insurgency for decades. They probably should have just stayed home.


The "inevitable march" across/thru Europe is an absolute myth. What should have stayed home is our money & our weapons.
Posted by 2020_reVISION
Richmond,VA
Member since Dec 2020
3033 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 9:26 am to
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They've been an independent country for over 30 years and want to remain that way.


Not true.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19226 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 1:43 pm to
The new Ukrainian brigades are only at half strength too.
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 1:55 pm to
Lmao - I call bullshite on this propaganda story.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 2:02 pm to
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Russia took back their sovereign land in Crimea


Lol
Posted by Marcus Aurelius
LA
Member since Oct 2020
3900 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 2:04 pm to
The MIC does not want it to end and they are ok with sacrificing young Ukrainian men as they think this is a smart war. I'll continue to "hold" my "defense" stocks.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 2:05 pm to
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The new Ukrainian brigades are only at half strength too.


Have you been right about anything since this war began? Given your prediction rate, you have to be batting near zero.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27484 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 2:21 pm to
They'll do it the ole fashioned Russian way. Draft a bunch give them a gun with 10 bullets and put them at the front of the front.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
13965 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 6:32 pm to
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Not true.

Correct. On August 24th it will have been 32 years.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19226 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 7:08 pm to
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Have you been right about anything since this war began? Given your prediction rate, you have to be batting near zero.


Do you drink up your propaganda, because you want to believe it?

Or because it’s it’s what other people do, and you want to do what other people do.
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