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re: Time for the Faux Outrage to stop on both sides
Posted on 9/6/18 at 12:11 pm to AggieDub14
Posted on 9/6/18 at 12:11 pm to AggieDub14
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When peoples main reason for hating on kneeling is that its disrespectful to our veterans, someone saying "I'm a veteran and dont think it matters" is relevant
That's their opinion and we have ours.
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You just didn't like what he had to say and wanted to be a tool about it.
Pot meet kettle
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Posted on 9/6/18 at 12:13 pm to Wtodd
Difference being I'm not acting like a tool
Posted on 9/6/18 at 12:16 pm to ColoBama
quote:Nobody is forcing YOU to shame anyone. Others choose to and that's their counter protest. Should the Right just shut up while Left goes on and on?to stand for the National Anthem.
Still, I do not understand why I am supposed to shame or force someone to stand for the National Anthem.
quote:They are protesting on private company time, they can be made to stand or be fined. What they do legally on their on time matters not.
It's your choice, bruh. Standing for the National Anthem is not a requirement for citizenship,
quote:I'm waiting for your followup to your original post to fulfill your thread title.
Time for the Faux Outrage to stop on both sides
Posted on 9/6/18 at 12:20 pm to Wtodd
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That's their opinion and we have ours.
The voracity of the "counter-protest" actually gave them all the press. They thank you for your opinion.
A true nothingburger turned into all this because of your opinion. I am more irritated y'all blew this up than the couple athletes doing something as insignificant as taking a knee.
I hope the faux outrage was worth it.
Posted on 9/6/18 at 12:21 pm to Jake88
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They are protesting on private company time, they can be made to stand or be fined. What they do legally on their on time matters not.
If their company is ok with it, what can you do?
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Should the Right just shut up while Left goes on and on?to stand for the National Anthem.
Should? I think it's the right move. If you ignore them, nobody cares. But no, doesn't have to.
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I'm waiting for your followup to your original post to fulfill your thread title.
As far as the left goes, and if you are a conservative, you know full well their protests are essentially small children having a tantrum. Not to insult anyone's intelligence but to me, that's obvious.
Posted on 9/6/18 at 12:22 pm to Montezuma
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A true nothingburger turned into all this because of your opinion. I am more irritated y'all blew this up than the couple athletes doing something as insignificant as taking a knee.
I hope the faux outrage was worth it.
My sentiment exactly and you articulated it better than I could have
Posted on 9/6/18 at 12:25 pm to AggieDub14
quote:Best post on the thread. One upvote was not enough.
When peoples main reason for hating on kneeling is that its disrespectful to our veterans, someone saying "I'm a veteran and dont think it matters" is relevant. You know this. You just didn't like what he had to say and wanted to be a tool about it.
Posted on 9/6/18 at 12:25 pm to ColoBama
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Time for the Faux Outrage to stop on both sides
Honestly, it won't subside until after the elections, and then it will remain percolating, but hopefully at a less deafening frenzy.
I have to admit that it's exhausting me, and I don't really keep up with it on a daily basis.
Posted on 9/6/18 at 12:27 pm to AggieHank86
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When peoples main reason for hating on kneeling is that its disrespectful to our veterans, someone saying "I'm a veteran and dont think it matters" is relevant. You know this. You just didn't like what he had to say and wanted to be a tool about it.
I honestly don't think he read all of it.
Posted on 9/6/18 at 12:28 pm to ColoBama
I'm honestly curious whether most service members are offended. That seems to be the biggest reason for counter-protesting, but I don't see a lot of evidence. It just seems strange that someone fighting for freedom would take a stand against someone exercising it in such a subdued manner.
Posted on 9/6/18 at 12:31 pm to cahoots
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I'm honestly curious whether most service members are offended. That seems to be the biggest reason for counter-protesting, but I don't see a lot of evidence. It just seems strange that someone fighting for freedom would take a stand against someone exercising it in such a subdued manner.
Honestly, I think it's stupid that Kap did this but I'm not offended.
Posted on 9/6/18 at 12:35 pm to cahoots
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I'm honestly curious whether most service members are offended.
Some legit are. Some are the opposite and support it. Many don't care. Many just like to make fun of the whole ordeal on my social media.
Posted on 9/6/18 at 12:36 pm to ColoBama
I think the outrage is real probably on both sides.
For me It's an offensive gesture purposely being used to incite a specific reaction. It's not the appropriate place or manner to protest and as a result is killing the NFL brand.
For me It's an offensive gesture purposely being used to incite a specific reaction. It's not the appropriate place or manner to protest and as a result is killing the NFL brand.
This post was edited on 9/6/18 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 9/6/18 at 12:39 pm to cyarrr
Are you really outraged though?
Posted on 9/6/18 at 12:42 pm to Montezuma
I did 10 yrs in the Marines (not that it matters) and I'm more so frustrated in the racial divide by this campaign. It's not Kaep, but Nike using Kaep - an unemployed athlete with an agenda.
OP, TYFYS, YWFMS - SF -
OP, TYFYS, YWFMS - SF -
Posted on 9/6/18 at 12:42 pm to ColoBama
There are many reasons not to side with the kneelers:
1. It's a false narrative that they're kneeling about in the first place. There is little statistical data to support that there is systemic racism within police departments or America as a whole.
2. They're using their right to free speech granted to them by their country to protest that same country - it doesn't make much logical sense
3. They're taking a ceremony that is about unity and showing thank those who have made the ultimate sacrifice and are making it about themselves, people who largely know nothing of sacrifice
4. It infuses politics into sports, and sports are supposed to be an escape from such things
1. It's a false narrative that they're kneeling about in the first place. There is little statistical data to support that there is systemic racism within police departments or America as a whole.
2. They're using their right to free speech granted to them by their country to protest that same country - it doesn't make much logical sense
3. They're taking a ceremony that is about unity and showing thank those who have made the ultimate sacrifice and are making it about themselves, people who largely know nothing of sacrifice
4. It infuses politics into sports, and sports are supposed to be an escape from such things
This post was edited on 9/6/18 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 9/6/18 at 12:43 pm to cyarrr
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For me It's an offensive gesture purposely being used incite a specific reaction. It's not the appropriate place or manner to protest and as a result is killing the NFL brand.
I think there's a distinction between thinking (a) it has bad optics, (b) it's actually offensive, and (c) it's offensive enough to get outraged over.
I personally just think it's a poorly chosen form of protest. The intent doesn't seem to be offending service members.
Posted on 9/6/18 at 12:46 pm to Blob Fish
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They're using their right to free speech granted to them by their country to protest that same country - it doesn't make much logical sense
So we have free speech, we shouldn't use it to protest other things? Not following you here
Posted on 9/6/18 at 12:52 pm to ColoBama
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Still, I do not understand why I am supposed to shame or force someone to stand for the National Anthem. It's your choice, bruh. Standing for the National Anthem is not a requirement for citizenship
That's correct.
BUT....If they want to protest do it on their own time. No their employer's time or what many would consider the viewer's time. Football is entertainment. Pure and simple. Kapernick and the other "protesters" have probably hurt their cause more than helped it.
Posted on 9/6/18 at 12:52 pm to ColoBama
I down voted but only because you said you fly the bama flag.
About Kaep, I can’t take a dumbass seriously that talks about the US being an oppressive country while wearing a Che Guevara shirt.
About Kaep, I can’t take a dumbass seriously that talks about the US being an oppressive country while wearing a Che Guevara shirt.
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