re: Tim Walz denied Catholic schools' request for security?

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The government generally provides security for public buildings, not private buildings.

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Yet I see cops posted at WalMart helping deter shoplifting. WalMart is a private corporation. Is not adding up

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Yet I see cops posted at WalMart helping deter shoplifting. WalMart is a private corporation. Is not adding up

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Those are off duty officers that Wal Mart is paying to act as security.

They aren't acting in official capacity as cops.

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We need to homeschool our kids

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If we're really going to talk about what should be done, this is the correct answer.

In these types of discussions I comment based on what I know is feasible or common...for example, I don't think the government has any business subsidizing private organizations, but many states already subsidize private schools.

THAT'S the context of Waltz refusing the security request. The context of this already being a common thing.

But should it be common? No.

But then again, we shouldn't have government mandated mass public education either.

I have no problem with the state offering educational resources for those who wish to take advantage of them—like libraries. But government forcing children to participate in 13 years of what mostly amounts to free babysitting is absurd.

If parents want to band together and create a private school and pay for it themselves, great. If the government wants to offer educational resources (most of which should be online in this day and time), also fine. But that shouldn't look anything like what public school looks like today, and it should only be for voluntary use. You don't want to learn to read and write, fine. No one can force you to if you don't want to anyway, which is why 20% of high school graduates still can't read.

But then that means we need to stop with the welfare system, otherwise people will choose not to educate themselves with the idea that they will just suckle at the government teat all their lives (which they do anyway, I know).

The point is that it starts to get really complicated when you insist on only commenting on what really should happen. What really should happen is that individuals should be responsible for their education and life and government contributions to that endeavor shouldn't look anything like what we have now.

But that would require gigantic societal shifts.

Much easier to to just say, "Well, the state often does subsidize private schools already...seems like Waltz funked up by refusing this request in that context."

The state of LA spends about $15,000 per kid per year on public schools.

I spend about $7,000 per kid per year at our private school.

There are approx 800 kids at my kid's school. The public school system in Louisiana is saving $12,000,000.00 per year bc of my kid's school.

Let's just say, and I am being very generous, that through all the programs that make of that $15,000 a year for public school, that 1/2 of that is also available to private schools too bc some are federal monies. Still saving $6,000,000.00 a year.

So we are at 6 Mil, the public schools are not paying for those 800 kids.

Extra Duty for officers around here is about $30 per hour. If you had a cop out there from 7am to 4 pm that would be 9 hours a day. From August to June is 43 weeks 3 days, minus holidays, you are probably at 39 weeks. That officer costs around $53,000 a year.

That saves the public schools $5.947 million a year.

It is very responsible govt to pay $53,000 a year to save 5.947 million a year, keep kids safe, and help supplement the pay of some of the popo with guaranteed extra duty. Especially considering my kids' school is providing better education than the public schools at half the cost per child.

On the other hand, perhaps the state should pay per child to the school of the parents' choice. I bet we could have the best school/safest campus/and lower tuition if the school got an additional $5.9 million a year!

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Yet I see cops posted at WalMart helping deter shoplifting.

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Private details paid by the private business.

I’m not sure if you are intentionally missing the point or not. Walz said in the VP debate that he was committed to solutions that “protect the second amendment and children”. He said it was his “priority”.

Then, when given the opportunity to do that, he balked. So you can try to naval gaze about how tax dollars should be used, or how conservatives (who have no voice in Minnesota) would size a government, but the fact remains. Walz is still a hypocrite.

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He was too busy prancing around on stage telling everyone how terrible Trump is. His entire state has gone to shite but all he cares about is bashing the president.

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Behind every crazy man there’s a lunatic spouse, turn the page.

It doesn’t really work like that.

Removing 5 kids from a class doesn’t remove the need for a teacher or school resource office or anything else. 5 X $15,000 equated to $75,000. The school isn’t providing fewer staff members because 5 kids transferred but the school is receiving $75,000 fewer dollars to provide the same number of staff members.

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On the other hand, perhaps the state should pay per child to the school of the parents' choice. I bet we could have the best school/safest campus/and lower tuition if the school got an additional $5.9 million a year!

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Unfortunately inserting government funds has a history of causing price increases. It would just make tuition more expensive.

School vouchers have proven over and over to be a vehicle for corruption and failure anyway.

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Unfortunately inserting government funds has a history of causing price increases. It would just make tuition more expensive.

School vouchers have proven over and over to be a vehicle for corruption and failure anyway.

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Agree

Home schooling is the route to go.