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re: TikTokers are using AI to translate Hitler speeches
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:58 pm to WWII Collector
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:58 pm to WWII Collector
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You know why they don't want Hitlers speeches translated into English?
Because then the world would then see that the Democrats of the USA are acting and speaking just like Hitler was in 1933.
Absolutely THIS.
And using tactics directly out of his playbook.
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Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:58 pm to Champagne
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what he really wanted to do, which was to ethnically cleanse Europe of the Jewish people!
That was never his ultimate goal. It was a step in achieving his goal, which was the expansion of the Reich and the Germanization of Central and Eastern Europe. The Jews were not unique in that regard. The Poles, etc. were treated the same way.
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 8:59 pm
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:00 pm to Goonie02
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Nazis had some badass outfits too
This. Those MFers knew how to design a uniform. And their equipment was sexy as well, even if it was all over engineered and useless if it broke down more than 10 minutes from the factory it was built in.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:03 pm to Champagne
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Wasn't the USA interested in helping the Allies win WW1 because of some banking and finance issues involving the USA, such that, if the Allies lost, the USA would lose big money?
As the war went on, we couldn't make money trading with Germany or Austria due to the Royal Navy.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:09 pm to Indefatigable
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Nazis had some badass outfits too
This. Those MFers knew how to design a uniform. And their equipment was sexy as well, even if it was all over engineered and useless if it broke down more than 10 minutes from the factory it was built in.
I remember those eagle daggers being a huge hit, back in the 80s.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:52 pm to Lima Whiskey
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:10 pm to AU86
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:31 pm to notsince98
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Hitler's number 1 priority was protecting Germany and germans from outside interventionists looking to undermine the country
Deciding who was a german was also kind of a big priority. Maybe the biggest.
My grandparents thought they were Germans (well actually Austrians). Turns out they were misinformed.
It’s all good though who needs Vienna when you got Gretna Fest.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:43 pm to notsince98
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The speeches really are fascinating. It isn't what you'd expect based on what our history teachers told us.
Hitler's number 1 priority was protecting Germany and germans from outside interventionists looking to undermine the country. Sound familiar?
He also recruited/ imported many fighters from all over the world, fighting age men, before WWII kicked off to use them as cannon fodder so less of the home grown Nazis would get killed. Does that seem familiar? Watching all of these single, military aged dudes coming across our border...
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:46 pm to TDsngumbo
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Yes, let's depend on technology to tell us what happened throughout history instead of just learning it ourselves. Surely that won't lead to history repeating itself
I say let's let people seek out information to form an opinion on what happened as opposed to listening to the Victor's version.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:08 pm to Indefatigable
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This. Those MFers knew how to design a uniform.
Hugo Boss was the manufacturer
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:48 pm to Seldom Seen
Yep. People are finally asking some pretty based questions that haven't been permitted after Nuremberg. The best argument I have heard is that Jewish business interests and even families used their relationships with other Jews outside of Germany to marshal capital and buy up distressed assets in economically devastated Germany. So over a very short period of time, many local shops and businesses, including some large businesses, end up being controlled by the same minority who have the ability to leverage their international community to gain an advantage over regular Germans. Jews were also heavily over represented in revolutionary communist groups in Europe. You rarely ever hear about their Bavarian revolution in 1919. It would have been a very peculiar and upsetting time as people were literally starving. There should be absolutely nothing wrong with investigating claims like that to understand why the anti-Jewish message was able to resonate.
And of course, you had Hitler and the SS machine gunning women and children into mass graves in Odessa and later trying to cover up the evidence before it was discovered by the allies. Evil.
We can entertain a reality more complex than just Jews good Germans bad. The extermination was pure evil AND the story of the Jews in Germany is more complicated than just being random victims.
And of course, you had Hitler and the SS machine gunning women and children into mass graves in Odessa and later trying to cover up the evidence before it was discovered by the allies. Evil.
We can entertain a reality more complex than just Jews good Germans bad. The extermination was pure evil AND the story of the Jews in Germany is more complicated than just being random victims.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 12:35 am to Seldom Seen
I have watched some of the videos of the translations. Hitler was a very charismatic and persuasive historical figure. They compare Hitler to Trump and we know that almost everything the Communists say about Trump is a lie. Did they do the same to Hitler? I know that Hitler was an evil man, but compared to the things that our own Government has done. How evil was he truly and what is the fabrication? Did you know that Himmler had discussions with the Usa and Britian to take out Hitler in hopes of teaming up to fight the Communists.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 12:39 am to Seldom Seen
I don't understand the problem here. Why wouldn't we want people to know what Hitler said?
This post was edited on 9/26/24 at 12:41 am
Posted on 9/26/24 at 1:02 am to TDsngumbo
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Yes, let's depend on technology to tell us what happened throughout history instead of just learning it ourselves. Surely that won't lead to history repeating itself. Today's generation fricking sucks arse.
It’s a translated speech. It’s not an AI summary.
Besides, textbooks or the mainstream media would lie about war or current events… It’s not like most of EU criminalized questioning the narrative around WWII Germany…
Weird take man.
This post was edited on 9/26/24 at 1:03 am
Posted on 9/26/24 at 1:10 am to TrueTiger
Forbidden knowledge has always been the surest way to keep people in line and not asking questions.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 6:10 am to TDsngumbo
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Yes, let's depend on technology to tell us what happened throughout history instead of just learning it ourselves. Surely that won't lead to history repeating itself.
Today's generation fricking sucks arse.
They are "learning it themselves"
They're actively looking into historical figures and events to learn about them outside of the classroom instead of relying on "what the teacher said"
This shows a very healthy distrust of the official narrative, especially if the narrative is being regurgitated by a blue haired, they/them that the current generations in charge allowed into the classroom
Posted on 9/26/24 at 6:13 am to TDsngumbo
quote:It is just the opposite, actually.
Yes, let's depend on technology to tell us what happened throughout history instead of just learning it ourselves. Surely that won't lead to history repeating itself.
In the same way George Washington never told a lie, "historians" present Hitler as an obviously insane, evil figure who was on constant tirade, and as a man who mystically wrung power from the German people.
It is simpleton nonsense that plays exactly into history repeating itself, because presently, the vast majority of folks have no real idea as to what transpired in post-WWI Germany. There is painfully limited public understanding as to how Hitler attained power and Time Magazine's Man-of-the-Year status on a contemporary basis.
To learn from history, we have to focus on what contemporary understanding was, not the black-and-white fairytales being taught. Factually we know Hitler was an evil man. Many, perhaps most, did not understand that at the time though.
Why?
Some of that mystery can be answered in the very speeches being translated, which you inaccurately ascribe to AI manipulation. In fact, to the German people, subjected to absurd terms of Versailles and a concomitant worldwide economic depression, Hitler appeared to be a reasonable, viable savior of sorts. Only through understanding those facts as they appeared then, and the power of related propaganda given our retrospective knowledge as to where it would lead, can we avoid a repeat in the future.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 6:16 am to TDsngumbo
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Sounds like they are learning it themselves, from the source.
Sure beats depending on the education system
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es, let's depend on technology to tell us what happened throughout history instead of just learning it ourselves.
Sounds like they are learning it themselves, from the source.
Sure beats depending on the education system
Posted on 9/26/24 at 6:37 am to Tigerlaff
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Jews outside of Germany to marshal capital and buy up distressed assets in economically devastated Germany.
That is a turning point. During and prior to WWI German Jews were basically accepted and served in the German military.
Afterwards they saw opportunity to lever international finance to snatch up underwater german businesses: a form of carpetbagging globalism. Right there the seeds of resentment and hate were sowed.
And it wasn't so much the 'Jew' part, it was more the globalist part. The Jew part became an unfortunate but convenient identifier.
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