- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:51 am to Ebbandflow
quote:
Using instability and stirring up hate for the other side is a Russian propaganda tactic not an American government tactic.
it's a politician tactic
Obama did it. you just agree with him when he did it so it's nbd in your mind
hell the DEMs literally just did this for weeks surrounding that tax bill. their entire premise was to create instability and attack the GOP
quote:
but to viciously attack and rile up the American public is to create a rift
again, welcome to modern politics. all of them do it
the point is why do you expect Trump to not when everyone else, on both sides, is engaging in these tactics?
This post was edited on 1/3/18 at 9:52 am
Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:52 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
by excluding the largest muslim populations?
I think you just made my point for me.
We shouldn't fear Muslims any more than we fear any other group.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:53 am to victoire sécurisé
quote:
If the POTUS made such unwise public comments after debate and careful consideration behind closed doors, people would think he's absolutely insane. The argument repeated in this thread is that Trump's tweets are inconsequential because they're just that, tweets.
they're aimed at his voting base to keep their support
they're inconsequential from a larger political perspective
quote:
You can call it democratization of the Presidency, but it is really a skilled politician bloviating to satisfy an electorate that is incapable of understanding what needs to be done to advance the interests of the country.
how totalitarian of you
i hope you never bring up disenfranchisement of voters
Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:53 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
the point is why do you expect Trump to not when everyone else, on both sides, is engaging in these tactics?
It hasn't been the same and you know it. Trump uses Twitter to attack people that he thinks oppose him on a daily basis I have never seen anything close to it and neither have you
Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:53 am to SlowFlowPro
I honestly think a lot of the prog shock to this day is that they still can't believe "they lost" when told after 2008 they would never "lose" again.
Imagine your whole identity being wrapped into who the president is that term. What a sad existence. I feel for people like that actually.
Imagine your whole identity being wrapped into who the president is that term. What a sad existence. I feel for people like that actually.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:55 am to victoire sécurisé
quote:
I think you just made my point for me.
We shouldn't fear Muslims any more than we fear any other group.
uh
he didn't "ban Muslims"
he banned travel from areas linked to terrorism
if he was attempting to ban Muslims, logically, he'd have picked the largest population centers. he didn't
therefore, logically, his travel ban was about something other than banning Muslims for being Muslim
Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:56 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
he didn't "ban Muslims" he banned travel from areas linked to terrorism if he was attempting to ban Muslims, logically, he'd have picked the largest population centers. he didn't therefore, logically, his travel ban was about something other than banning Muslims for being Muslim
Literally all of this.
That's why it is hard to take the progs serious when they are being disingenuous about things like the travel ban.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:59 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
totalitarian
Guilty
quote:
i hope you never bring up disenfranchisement of voters
It's not a good long-term policy.
But if we're being honest, there's a part in all of us that would selectively disenfranchise if given the power. Hell, just read this board for two minutes and you'll see a total disregard for any dissenting opinion.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:02 am to Rebel
quote:
Your guy has the keys for 8 years. It was his failed polies and lies to the American people that allowed a polarizing candidate like Trump to waltz into the most powerful office in the world. The people took the keys back. You can’t drive anymore. Sit back and hush while America becomes great again.
So Obama is to blame for Trump tweeting on the toilet? Talk about derangement syndrome.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:03 am to Ebbandflow
quote:
It hasn't been the same and you know it.
i'm not a DEM or a Republican. what do i get out of lying?
quote:
Trump uses Twitter to attack people that he thinks oppose him on a daily basis
well yes if you're talking about THAT SPECIFICALLY? yes
we weren't talking about such specifics earlier
but like i said in another post, it's just a sign of how social media is changing communications...even up to the Presidency
quote:
I have never seen anything close to it and neither have you
there have only been two "Twitter Presidents" so this statement is essentially just stating that fact
This post was edited on 1/3/18 at 10:04 am
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:04 am to TBoy
quote:
r Trump tweeting on the toilet? Talk about derangement syndrome.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:05 am to BeeFense5
quote:
I honestly think a lot of the prog shock to this day is that they still can't believe "they lost" when told after 2008 they would never "lose" again.
Imagine your whole identity being wrapped into who the president is that term. What a sad existence. I feel for people like that actually.
i think social media in particular annoys them b/c they loved calling Obama the "social media president" and celebrating how cool and hip he was. now an almost 70 year old, rich white guy shows up and does social media way more effectively than Obama, so it's just a tough pill to swallow. so what do they do? spin it to say "he's not using it the right way". they love their platonic ideals
This post was edited on 1/3/18 at 10:06 am
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:06 am to SlowFlowPro
- Trump himself branded it as a Muslim ban.
- There was already a vetting process in place that had been effective for years.
- If he could have included Pakistan and Indonesia in the ban without significant economic disruption, he would have. I'd like to give Trump the benefit of the doubt, but there's nothing in his public record that dissuaded me from assuming bigotry. My presumption is shared by most feder judges who have heard the case.
- There was already a vetting process in place that had been effective for years.
- If he could have included Pakistan and Indonesia in the ban without significant economic disruption, he would have. I'd like to give Trump the benefit of the doubt, but there's nothing in his public record that dissuaded me from assuming bigotry. My presumption is shared by most feder judges who have heard the case.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:08 am to victoire sécurisé
quote:
Trump himself branded it as a Muslim ban.
as President? link?
quote:
There was already a vetting process in place that had been effective for years.
and? that's basically irrelevant b/c you're talking about a new policy
quote:
If he could have included Pakistan and Indonesia in the ban without significant economic disruption, he would have
link?
you're making a very important suggestion without, i imagine, any proof other than hope and political bias
quote:
My presumption is shared by most feder judges who have heard the case.
the ultimate ruling has not come down and the USSC hasn't been too kind about those district court rulings
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:16 am to SlowFlowPro
-doesn't matter that he branded it as Muslim ban as a candidate. Establishes motive.
- if previous policy was effective, why make a new policy a priority other than previously stated motive?
- big presumption about Pak & Indonesia. Only supported by his directive to Sessions to "make this thing legal". Implies that Trump's only restriction was "legality", certainly not effectiveness of national security.
- given the facts above, I'd think that a ruling against the ban could be considered fair without excessive political bias.
- if previous policy was effective, why make a new policy a priority other than previously stated motive?
- big presumption about Pak & Indonesia. Only supported by his directive to Sessions to "make this thing legal". Implies that Trump's only restriction was "legality", certainly not effectiveness of national security.
- given the facts above, I'd think that a ruling against the ban could be considered fair without excessive political bias.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:17 am to victoire sécurisé
Its been nearly two years of the left foretelling of global Armageddon from the Trump Twitter account, yet here we are. With respect to NK, how can it be argued that we haven't achieved a higher than ever level of focus on the issue? We have more meaningful cooperation from Russia and China as well as the harshest UN sanctions we've seen to date. If Trumps rhetoric makes YOU nervous, how do you think Kim feels? Isn't that the point?
The mealy mouthed, PC methods in the past were clearly not effective, yet many curiously stomp their feet at this tougher approach. Being strong in the face of dictatorships used to be a hallmark of american freedom, back when we were feared and respected.
The mealy mouthed, PC methods in the past were clearly not effective, yet many curiously stomp their feet at this tougher approach. Being strong in the face of dictatorships used to be a hallmark of american freedom, back when we were feared and respected.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:19 am to BeeFense5
I don’t think people here are our rates at all. They are simply calling the president out on his foolishness and lies. Personally, I find it comical, yet sad that a president would engage in such foolishness. One prime example is his tweet today that he will be handing out awards for the most dishonest media.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:21 am to TheMidasTouch
Edward R Murrow approves
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:22 am to Vacherie Saint
quote:
Being strong in the face of dictatorships used to be a hallmark of american freedom, back when we were feared and respected
We used to have a badass president that said, "speak softly and carry a big stick". Mouthing off doesn't make Trump tough. The might of the US military does. The only thing his foolish words do is make it more likely that we will have to prove it.
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News