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re: Thomas Massie tells hilarious story about Trump calling him when opposing $2T covid bill
Posted on 12/17/23 at 5:25 pm to davyjones
Posted on 12/17/23 at 5:25 pm to davyjones
quote:Trumpdid this. He put Mccarthy into the speakership
stumping super hard for Kevin McCarthy on the open floor of the House prior to the vote
This post was edited on 12/17/23 at 7:38 pm
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Posted on 12/17/23 at 5:31 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Devoted to the nominee. .. Tehy must have been dedicated McCain and Romney supporters. In the name of loyalty, i’m sure.
You people have been raging against the GOP for years. Just stop pretending.
This post was edited on 12/17/23 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 12/17/23 at 6:58 pm to rmnldr
Melt day 143
Posted on 12/17/23 at 7:00 pm to Strannix
Trump is too stupid to know what Massie is about and stands for.
Posted on 12/17/23 at 7:40 pm to rmnldr
The relief packages.. I'm on the fence and can see both points of view. Msm, social media and Democrats set up a situation where hundreds of millions of people were being promised a little money. And it wasn't a figurative thing like Democrats preach about reparations. It was a lil money that the vast majority of Americans would receive, at a time when the government was shutting almost everything down and forcing people out of work. By going against the relief packages was basically going against hundreds of millions of Americans. I can see why most politicians didn't want to go against it.
I also understand the staunch politicians who are willing to tell hundreds of millions of Americans to frick off, in order to stand by their own morals on a specific issue.
I personally believe the relief packages were a mistake. Not because they gave people a little money, but because politicians used the relief packages as a means to fund a lot of their own pet projects and to give themselves pay increases. If they were genuinely concerned about the citizens, they should've created a package that consisted solely on giving Americans the little money.
I also understand the staunch politicians who are willing to tell hundreds of millions of Americans to frick off, in order to stand by their own morals on a specific issue.
I personally believe the relief packages were a mistake. Not because they gave people a little money, but because politicians used the relief packages as a means to fund a lot of their own pet projects and to give themselves pay increases. If they were genuinely concerned about the citizens, they should've created a package that consisted solely on giving Americans the little money.
Posted on 12/17/23 at 7:42 pm to Plx1776
Imo, it was better to give taxpayers a little of their money back, opposed to what is currently going on, shipping a ton of money overseas to foreign countries, on a regular basis. shite that is still impacting us, but benefits no one except for the elites of our country and the elites of foreign countries.
Posted on 12/17/23 at 7:42 pm to Plx1776
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but because politicians used the relief packages as a means to
Enable a prolonged shutdown of the economy for which we are still paying.
I know many people who made more in Covid unemployment than they did before the pandemic.
Posted on 12/17/23 at 7:43 pm to Plx1776
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give taxpayers a little of their money back
That’s not what happened.
Posted on 12/17/23 at 7:44 pm to Plx1776
quote:Congress passed those bills by almost unanamous margins. Which makes Trump pressuring Massie even more silly. It wasn't like the vote was close, or split on party lines.
The relief packages.. I'm on the fence and can see both points of view.
It's just another datapoint telling us the Trump hates conservative ideals unless they gain him votes. There's a word for that... maybe someone can help me out...
Posted on 12/17/23 at 7:45 pm to the808bass
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That’s not what happened.
Not even remotely close to what happened. Trump borrowed money from my great grandkids and gave it to me now.
Posted on 12/17/23 at 7:45 pm to Plx1776
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it was better to give taxpayers a little of their money back,
every dollar of it was borrowed. You and your children will pay it all back. With decades of interest accrued. You literally got bribed with your own money. Posted on 12/17/23 at 8:00 pm to BBONDS25
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A billionaire who is one of 45 men to become president. Total idiot!
Would he still be POTUS if he wasn't an idiot?
This post was edited on 12/17/23 at 8:07 pm
Posted on 12/17/23 at 8:08 pm to SPT
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Every time you post it becomes more and more obvious what a complete idiot you are
Posted on 12/17/23 at 8:13 pm to Ribbed
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Unbalanced doesn't quite describe his obsessive attacks on all things Ron Desantis.
Oh don’t be ridiculous. He loves Ron. He said so when called out for being an idiot. Was a few dozen times ago.
This post was edited on 12/17/23 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 12/17/23 at 9:29 pm to Powerman
quote:Actually, his strongest appeal, in my estimation, is if we don't elect him the DS will be free to destroy any future candidate it chooses with lawfare. There may not be another candidate in history who could financially withstand DOJ and State funded attacks in seven or eight separate actions spread in venues across the US.
The ONLY appeal that he has is that he isn't Biden.
Posted on 12/17/23 at 9:50 pm to blueboxer1119
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Nice 7 AM Sunday morning melt.
Exhibit A as to why we have experienced high inflation.
Posted on 12/17/23 at 9:57 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I’m sure you’d gladly vote for Nikki…but Trump is a fraud. The only President to tell the Europeans to pay their share of NATO to their face and call out the McConnell wing for being big business whores. The only President to ask why our boys are dying in Forever Wars we never win so the MIC can get fat…but yeah Trump is a total fraud.
This post was edited on 12/17/23 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 12/18/23 at 11:37 am to TigerOnTheMountain
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This is where we differ. I’m not tearing him down.
I know I’m late on this, but I was referring to the attacks from the government trying to tear him down, not people’s individual opinions.
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I expect accountability, where you prefer to ignore who his record says he is and hope he’s “figured it out” this time.
Wrong. I’m simply assuming he will win the nomination. That’s my entire point. I don’t think it’s productive to be overly critical of him if my choice is him or Biden, but high looks to be the most likely scenario.
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Despite the fact that he’s tripled down on almost everything and even has advocated for more federal authority.
I see things from a different perspective. I find Trump to be extremely useful in exposing where the overreach in federal authority is. I don’t necessarily expect him to be the one to clean it up and am hopeful someone more well suited for that role will come along in the future. I was very hopeful that would have been Desantis in 2024. I thought that was his only real path to winning, but has been inherently muddied by other messaging from his campaign.
The one thing I notice about the Ron supporters on this board is they want to tell you what you think. Quit making so many assumptions. The divide you see, the cult that you envision is largely an illusion of your own closed mindedness. The cultists type people do exist, but making it requisite to denounce Trump to escape the lable has ensured that the Ron supporters are the ones on the fringe
Posted on 12/30/23 at 12:55 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
I’ll take that action.
Posted on 12/30/23 at 12:57 pm to PorkSammich
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Trump’s the fraud. He’s a big government swamp creature but his worshippers keep their head in the sand.
Bingo bango bongo. In the coming years this is only gonna be made more clear
This post was edited on 12/30/23 at 12:59 pm
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