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re: This thread is one-stop shopping for sane takeaways from last night:

Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:47 am to
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:47 am to
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would define it as single-issue voters where the issue appears to be an unwavering belief that a pre-planned, co-ordinated, nationwide effort to steal the vote was not only enacted, but also somehow was able to survive numerous court appeals...with those appeals being part of the conspiracy. An attendant belief would be the "no way Biden got 81 million votes" meme - despite the fact that massively high turnout just clearly is the norm now.


Cool, explain this.

Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
23560 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:48 am to
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Absurd propaganda about Republican voter suppression was debunked. "Jim Crow 2.0" not only didn't suppress the vote, but Georgia instead had its highest ever turnout for a mid-term

I guess you weren't paying attention to Abrams when she said you could have historical voter turnout and STILL have voter suppression.

I hope the Dims run that loser out 20 more times. Along with that Beto chump.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56794 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:50 am to
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Big Scrub TX


Here’s the problem with you, you can take a leftist talking point and assume it is fact. Just like with CRT, “election-denying” is a leftist attempt to change the narrative and start off conversations with an admitted lie. Not to mention, the obvious contradiction of “election denying” by the left, which there is ample video proof of. Why do you exclude them? Is it, possibly, that your attempt to name call is akin to calling Trump supporters “deplorables”? I never really believed your attempt to come off as a new moderate.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
22248 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:53 am to
On the Republican side, I think it shows that candidates need to be their own person and run on issues instead being pro-Trump or never-trump. You can take some inspiration from Trump, but I think even hardcore Trump supporters can agree that it’s got to be ok if a candidate doesn’t care about bending the knee to DJT. That doesn’t mean we need squishy Romney types. Just the opposite. But there’s only one “Trump“ and the secret sauce that he has doesn’t always translate to success. Kemp, DeSantis, Youngkin, Abbott, etc. show there’s a way forward.

Silver lining about last night was that it wasn’t a total disaster for Biden….which means it’s now more likely he could stick around for another run for 2024. That’s a good thing for Republicans.



Posted by NorCali
Member since Feb 2015
1563 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 11:00 am to
-Looks like Alaska has grown weary of Sarah Palin.
-No idea what the rank voting for Senate in AK will yield yet.
-Warnock having over 130,000 more votes than Abrams is surprising.

Posted by Tandemjay
Member since Jun 2022
4639 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 11:06 am to
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Bad night for Trump. Certainly, he was planning on riding a much bigger red wave by announcing next week. Perhaps he will reconsider:


Wrong it was a good night for Mitch and the uni-party and those that support them.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26802 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 11:36 am to
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I would define it as single-issue voters where the issue appears to be an unwavering belief that a pre-planned, co-ordinated, nationwide effort to steal the vote was not only enacted,


So you think no laws were broken in Georgia on a fairly wide scale? Or do you just think it was happenstance with no coordination?
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14935 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 11:46 am to
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Cool, explain this.

is that Detroit? can't tell.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20224 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 11:58 am to
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Another big loser was all of the "end of democracy" pundits.
You’re kidding yourself if the spin isn’t that Americans wanting to save democracy is why they kept the Senate and rampant voter suppression in states like Florida need to be stopped.

Both Trump, and the Democratic Party will be non stop trying to destroy DeSantis from here on.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35288 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 12:23 pm to
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Both Lake and Masters will likely win.

At this point, I will nut if this happens.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38260 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 12:47 pm to
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And what’s the tally for leftist election deniers?
The tally? Be more specific.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38260 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 12:48 pm to
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If a mental invalid winning a Senate seat doesn't honk-pill you on the ridiculousness of democracy, nothing will.
Fetterman and Oz both suck - but the hyperbole around Fetterman on this has been extreme. But also funny how you don't seem concerned that Walker might win. He's no less ridiculous.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38260 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 12:49 pm to
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I guess you weren't paying attention to Abrams
Correct. I make it my business to not pay attention to her.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26802 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 12:51 pm to
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Cool, explain this.


I guess he can't.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38260 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 12:53 pm to
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Just like with CRT, “election-denying” is a leftist attempt to change the narrative and start off conversations with an admitted lie.
Nah. CRT is real (meaning, the left's attempt to foist it on us in all aspects of life is real). Stolen election is not.

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Not to mention, the obvious contradiction of “election denying” by the left, which there is ample video proof of. Why do you exclude them?
I don't exclude them from having helped create a climate of election denying that some of the GOP have taken to a whole new level. But let's not forget this: more than half of the GOP House delegation was going to catastrophically vote to de-certify the election. Mike Pence - derided here as a cuck - saved us from that. I'm unaware of any democrats (much less prominent ones) who took things that far.
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Is it, possibly, that your attempt to name call is akin to calling Trump supporters “deplorables”?
No, it's not possible. They just need to stop with this shite and move on.

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I never really believed your attempt to come off as a new moderate.
I'm not actually a moderate. I'm a fairly hardcore anti-leftist. The thing you don't like is I refuse to just kiss Trump's arse every step of the way. I voted for Trump in 2020 and am still pissed at how fricking incompetent he turned out to be. He threw away the 2020 election with sheer stupidity - and he helped to greatly diminish the red wave here.

It's time to stop all this grand conspiracy nonsense and start winning some fricking elections. Last night appears to have been a good start, as it put DeSantis in the driver's seat. Add in Elon (hopefully) taking Twitter back in a decent direction, and I like the chances for 2024.

Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38260 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 12:55 pm to
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So you think no laws were broken in Georgia on a fairly wide scale? Or do you just think it was happenstance with no coordination?
I think - like every election - there was shady shite on both sides. I do not think there was any grand coordination.

The real problem is shite was so ganked up due to covid, that those in authority basically did a lousy job of explaining to voters how it was going to play out with the delayed ballots.

All of this would have been moot if Trump had simply told his supporters to vote remote and early. Instead - unbelievably, incredibly...STUPIDLY - he literally directed senior citizens in the middle of a pandemic NOT TO VOTE REMOTELY. So, they stayed home instead of going out. I'm still shaking my head.
Posted by Sooner5030
Desert Southwest
Member since Sep 2014
1739 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 12:56 pm to
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Brad Wilcox
@BradWilcoxIFS
Married men broke Republican by 20 pts

Married women broke R by 14 pts

Unmarried men broke R by 7 pts

But *unmarried women* broke D "by whopping 37 pts"

Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
16383 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 1:02 pm to
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Both Trump, and the Democratic Party will be non stop trying to destroy DeSantis from here on.


The more Trump attacks Desantis the worse it is going to look for Trump. Desantis is not Jeb Bush. The best thing Trump can do right now is step aside and let Desantis do the heavy lifting. Desantis can pay him back by naming him Ambassador to the U.N., Secretary of Commerce or Secretary of Energy. Right now there are more people who would vote for Desantis in a general election but not for Trump than there are people who would vote for Trump in a general election but not for Desantis.
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
16383 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 1:04 pm to
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But *unmarried women* broke D "by whopping 37 pts"


So the entire country is being pulled down to the ninth level of hell by cat ladies.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20224 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 1:05 pm to
I think it will actually be better for DeSantis if Trump opposes him than supports him.

As has been said, Trump gets out the vote….for both sides
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