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re: This sure sounds like a terrorist organization to me

Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:25 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:25 pm to
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From the affidavit.

No terrorism. Just ordinary thug-styled crime.

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I'm fine with foreign criminal gangs that take over several apartment buildings and harass American citizens while local police forces sit on their thumbs being labeled terrorist orgs if that's what's needed to break through these legal shells protecting them in deep blue sanctuary cities and states.


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Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:26 pm to
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Executive orders exist for the President to direct executive agencies in carrying out legislation passed by Congress. They do not exist for the President to bypass Congress in creating new legislation.

It's the judicial branch's responsibility to check the executive branch when this happens.
And it SHOULDN'T be controversial today.

That is as simple and correct a summary of Executive Orders as any sane person could imagine.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:26 pm to
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District court judges didn't exist when the framers were framing.


Neither did AR-15s, Fudd.

I'll give those men a little more credit than you just did.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89701 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:26 pm to
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Trump can deport all the gang bangers he wants after he makes sure they’re gang bangers.


Biden can import them without first seeing if they were gang bangers.






Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71016 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:26 pm to
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They don't. That's why nobody is asking that question.



The communications director for progressives has apparently spoken.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89701 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:27 pm to
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Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety


Why have a border?

Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:27 pm to
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Prior to 2016 local authorities wouldn't have allowed foreign gangs to take over apartment complexes.
And that local government has repeatedly said (with evidence) that nothing of the sort ever happened.

The "takeover" was a Far Right meme. Nothing more.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 10:39 pm
Posted by Boomdaddy65201
BoCoMo
Member since Mar 2020
4514 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:28 pm to
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A number of us hold the (informed) opinion that Donald Trump MADE that (insupportable) designation solely to give himself power that he would not otherwise have had.


Well, you’re all fricking wrong. Including the judge, DJT is the POTUS and you aren’t. He’s ultimately responsible for the safety & security of the country and populace not you. This a national security issue not of your fricking business, nor an exercise of checks and balances. National security issue and you and everyone else is on a need to know basis. You can all go frick yourselves you’re out of your lane.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90499 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:28 pm to
That local government is lying
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28012 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:28 pm to
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Just ordinary thug-styled crime.


When was the last time an American gang that just took over several apartment complexes and started collecting rent themselves?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:29 pm to
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DJT is the POTUS and you aren’t. He’s ultimately responsible for the safety & security of the country and populace not you. This a national security issue not of your fricking business, nor an exercise of checks and balances. National security issue and you and everyone else is on a need to know basis. You can all go frick yourselves you’re out of your lane.
So angry.

For some reason, so many of you are simply incapable of having a rational discussion about anything Trump does. It is fascinating.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 10:31 pm
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
11551 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:29 pm to
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Neither did AR-15s, Fudd.

I'll give those men a little more credit than you just did.
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Oh so the Constitution doesn't give district court judges the right to control the executive actions. I see.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476332 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:30 pm to
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Well, you’re all fricking wrong. Including the judge, DJT is the POTUS and you aren’t. He’s ultimately responsible for the safety & security of the country and populace not you. This a national security issue not of your fricking business, nor an exercise of checks and balances. National security issue and you and everyone else is on a need to know basis. You can all go frick yourselves you’re out of your lane.


As I said earlier, the emotionality has EXPLODED with this one particular issue.

It's a fascinating psychological event going on. I can't wait to figure out why this story, out of all of them, has made so many people lose their fricking minds and melt down like Democrats after Trump's first election victory.

I have so many theories brewing.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28012 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:30 pm to
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And that local government has repeatedly said (with evidence) that nothing of the sort ever happened.


What was the evidence?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:31 pm to
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Oh so the Constitution doesn't give district court judges the right to control the executive actions. I see.


You're misunderstanding the fundamental function of each branch of government.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:32 pm to
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What was the evidence?
As I recall, multiple statements from residents in those apartments.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476332 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:32 pm to
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When was the last time an American gang that just took over several apartment complexes and started collecting rent themselves?


This is a fact in dispute

Ignoring that, you've forgotten the meme of the 80s and 90s with gangs taking over public housing complexes/towers just like this.

It was memorialized in the TV show the Wire





Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
11551 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:33 pm to
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And that local government has repeatedly said (with evidence) that nothing of the sort ever happened.

It was a Far Right meme. Nothing more


WHAT THE frick. I'll post an excerpt since you won't click the clink

CBS NEWS LINK


A Denver law firm, hired to look into an alleged gang takeover of an Aurora apartment building, says they found the Venezuelan Tren de Aragua gang began taking over the Whispering Pines Apartments in late 2023. Since then, the gang has engaged in violent assaults, threats of murder, extortion, strongarm tactics, and child prostitution as they have exerted a "stranglehold" on the Aurora apartment complex. That's according to a letter sent to Aurora Mayor Mike Coffman, Aurora City Manager Jason Batchelor, and the interim police chief that was obtained by CBS News Colorado.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:33 pm to
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You're misunderstanding the fundamental function of each branch of government.
It is really amazing that our experiment in democracy has lasted as long as it has lasted, given the amazing level of ignorance most Americans have as to our system of government.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:33 pm to
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Well, you’re all fricking wrong. Including the judge, DJT is the POTUS and you aren’t. He’s ultimately responsible for the safety & security of the country and populace not you. This a national security issue not of your fricking business, nor an exercise of checks and balances. National security issue and you and everyone else is on a need to know basis. You can all go frick yourselves you’re out of your lane.


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