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re: This sure sounds like a terrorist organization to me
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Ordinary....crime
Specifically within the context of discussing terrorism
If all crime is ordinary within the context of discussing terrorism, why designate it as "ordinary" to being with unless you're trying to lessen the impact of what's happening?
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:55 pm to Azkiger
quote:No, he was not. If you contend otherwise, please provide the identity of the district court in which it was pending and the style of the case.
He was not attempting any governmental (enforcement) action, based upon the redesignation.quote:
Sure he was
quote:No, not "ordinary criminal gang activity" by any means.
that changed the rules of engagement with the Houthis when they started attacking ships. It turned terrorist action into... what was it... ordinary criminal gang activity?
The Houthis are rebels in a civil war against the Yemeni government, not a criminal gang running drug and extortion rings.
For whatever reason, they think that attacking non-combatant ships will help them in that war. I think that analysis is mistaken, but that view is really irrelevant to this discussion.
This "discussion" has grown tiresome. When the best response from the "other side" is "Well, you are stupid," it is time to shut down.
Good night, all. Sleep well.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
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No I corrected dishonesty
Do the "takeover of complexes by Venezuelan gangs" is in dispute next.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:57 pm to Azkiger
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If all crime is ordinary within the context of discussing terrorism
It is not. You started with a bad premise
I posted the definition of domestic terrorism a few pages back if you want to educate yourself. Terrorism requires a political component that is lacking in this terrible, organized, and ordinary criminal behavior.
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why designate it as "ordinary"
To distinguish it from terrorism in a thread discussion the propriety of labelling the same criminal activity as terrorism.
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unless you're trying to lessen the impact of what's happening?
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Ordinary....crime
Specifically within the context of discussing terrorism
Ordinary=/= terrorism
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:58 pm to tgrgrd00
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Do the "takeover of complexes by Venezuelan gangs" is in dispute next.
Naw. I already answered assuming that premise was true. Pointed out for the 3rd time to you.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 11:01 pm to AggieHank86
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If you contend otherwise, please provide the identity of the district court in which it was pending and the style of the case.
I contend otherwise and point to the difference in response to Houthis Pirates attacking the shipping lane before and after the delisting of them as a terrorist org.
Are you arguing that Biden did it for no reason? That nothing changed when such a delisting was made? Why do it, then?
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No, not "ordinary criminal gang activity" by any means.
The Houthis are rebels in a civil war against the Yemeni government, not a criminal gang running drug and extortion rings.
For whatever reason, they think that attacking non-combatant ships will help them in that war. I think that analysis is mistaken, but that view is really irrelevant to this discussion.
So they use threats of violence to get what they want politically. Sounds like terrorists to me. But Biden said they weren't. Why didn't the judicial branch step in to reign in this executive overstep?
Where were your posts decrying such a move?
Posted on 3/19/25 at 11:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Naw. I already answered assuming that premise was true. Pointed out for the 3rd time to you.
Sorry I must have missed you admitting you were wrong.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 11:02 pm to tgrgrd00
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Sorry I must have missed you admitting you were wrong.
I'm not
I answered both premises (whether in dispute or not)
Posted on 3/19/25 at 11:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I answered both premises (whether in dispute or not)
Such a weasel
Lawyers wonder why they have the reputation they do.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 11:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
So when you said...
You were saying "No terrorism. Just non-terrorist activity.".
After seeing all of your ridiculous contrarian posts I'm going to have to press ( X ) Doubt on that one.
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No terrorism. Just ordinary thug-styled crime.
You were saying "No terrorism. Just non-terrorist activity.".
After seeing all of your ridiculous contrarian posts I'm going to have to press ( X ) Doubt on that one.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 11:06 pm to tgrgrd00
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Such a weasel
Lawyers wonder why they have the reputation they do.
Nothing "lawyerly" about being able to understand the totality of a discussion/question.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 11:08 pm to Azkiger
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You were saying "No terrorism. Just non-terrorist activity.".
In a thread discussing if it's terrorism, yes.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 11:17 pm to AggieHank86
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When the best response from the "other side" is "Well, you are stupid," it is time to shut down.
This is Aggiehank's attempt to iron man his opposition. Such integrity, such an intellectual... That is indeed the best argument presented here. What a great assessment!
And this turd wonders why he's not taken seriously...
Posted on 3/19/25 at 11:19 pm to AggieHank86
Terrorists' aims are political or ideological.
actually, terrorists' aims are rooted in hatred before all else...people who generally have zero first hand experience with these types do not understand this concept nor do they appreciate the true danger they represent because all they have to go by are there own interpretation of wikipedia definitions and perceptions without any first hand experience...I can assure you, these animals meet the minimum standards to be categorized as terrorists
actually, terrorists' aims are rooted in hatred before all else...people who generally have zero first hand experience with these types do not understand this concept nor do they appreciate the true danger they represent because all they have to go by are there own interpretation of wikipedia definitions and perceptions without any first hand experience...I can assure you, these animals meet the minimum standards to be categorized as terrorists
Posted on 3/19/25 at 11:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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They don't. That's why nobody is asking that question.
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I don't think TDA should be ablet o be labeled a terrorist organization
Yes a group that a communist regime sent not only to the US. But other nations to cause chaos, murder and rape. They should be given all the rights under our constitution.
If given the information of names and connections to TDA. You all will move the goal posts to next frivolous injunction.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:12 am to AggieHank86
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Terrorism, in its broadest sense, is the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims.[1] The term is used in this regard primarily to refer to intentional violence during peacetime or in the context of war against non-combatants.
If you know recent history, and I'm sure you do to some extent, then you'd know that the Orange revolution was a terrorist action. I think you'd agree, but it seems like you like to argue the sky is green sometimes.
If you followed that era of the talking point supporting Homeland security after their creation, saying "beware the lone wolf and saw a mindless attack on innocent civilians upon soft targets", then (I'll stop saying you) one would conclude such attacks would be of a terrorist principle.
Fast forward to now: our corrupt NGOs through money laundering and a corrupt George Soros/Alex Soros run collage of programs, IMPORTED criminals, some of which were in foreign prisons to "live out their life" but also with funding with our own tax dollars to get them on their feet. Now they go and machete or rape someone jogging in a park trail. That's just "violent criminal" behavior? No, I think not. That's terrorism. From a high level, only disguised to resemble a nonchalant crime as you and other leftists wish to portray it. If you want to pretend they all fought through the jungle and wandered thousands of miles through jungles and desert to the American dream, go for it, buddy. But you aren't fooling anyone. Tren de Aragua didn't just show up here in huge numbers by accident. And that's where you are wrong.
Also try and defend the importation of thousands of Somalis to essentially take over a huge part of the city of Minneapolis through harassment and property value loss. That's terrorism too, just a more "South African" way.
Stop playing goalie, and call it what it is!
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:11 am to AggieHank86
quote:parents at school board meetings?
Who is "up next?" The Mafia? Greenpeace?
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:19 am to thebigmuffaletta
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Our resident ambulance chaser has been stamping his feet that Tren de Aragua isn’t a terrorist organization.
LoL.... So true. As if he has the authority to make such a declaration and the duly elected President doesn't!! That dude often has his head so far up his arse, he can't see past his own shite.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:04 am to Bunk Moreland
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What if the President is wrong in his application of the law? Is there any review of that?
The Supreme Court can take the case and if the president ignores them then congress can impeach him. Not some snot nose activist judge.
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