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re: This nation is headed for a Divorce
Posted on 9/24/20 at 4:41 pm to RollTide4Ever
Posted on 9/24/20 at 4:41 pm to RollTide4Ever
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It'll happen when the economic chickens come home to roost.
That’s more of an urban vs rural scrum IMO. That’s partly why I don’t think we’ll get the divorce in the sense of state secession. Our problems are better defined between densely populated urban areas full of batshite liberals and rural America full of people who largely want to be left alone and not told they’re racist or dumb simply based on their location and skin color.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 4:46 pm to DabosDynasty
My great great grandpa Confederate money is going to be worth something after all!
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:43 pm to crazy4lsu
I'm still waiting for evidence on how China would just rule over us.
It's a well known fact that empires are ruinous to the fiscal being of the ruler.
It's a well known fact that empires are ruinous to the fiscal being of the ruler.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:44 pm to Redleg Guy
There won't be a capital, we learned from the past mistake.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:44 pm to Jeb Busch Lite
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Buy ammunition
Done. What’s next?
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:52 pm to RollTide4Ever
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I'm still waiting for evidence on how China would just rule over us.
I've never suggested such a thing. Foreign influence isn't the same as "ruling over," and foreign influence is a pretty common thing that every country has to deal with, to varying degrees. The degree of how many countries attempt it depends on a multiplicity of geopolitical factors. The Syrian Civil War is a good example, as smaller actors, such as the Gulf Oil States, quickly aligned themselves with larger powers in the regions where their interests align. If you don't think there will be a net increase in foreign influence if the country Balkanizes, then I don't know what to tell you.
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It's a well known fact that empires are ruinous to the fiscal being of the ruler.
It depends. The Ottoman Empire was certainly better off having Egypt under its rule than otherwise, as tax receipts from Egypt were used to balance the treasury budget at the end of the year. There is a difference between imperial polity as it developed in successor empires to the Romans (which includes all of West Asia) and imperial overextension in terms of what they could reasonably hold. I don't think the Chinese are interested in actual physical possession, but they would be interested in taking advantage of the loss of US power to achieve their own geopolitical ends, such as securing the South China Sea, securing Taiwanese capitulation, and see to it that their objectives in Central Asia are met. There are far more geopolitical externalities than just the Chinese, though.
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 6:13 pm
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:55 pm to redneck hippie
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well documented in the Mueller report i
They bought $250k in ads on LifeLog. That's hardly changing votes at the ballot box.
Look into Zuckerbot's own Get Out the Vote efforts via FB banner ads and get back to us on who's truly influencing the elections to the benefit of one party over the other.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 6:08 pm to troyt37
The republicans military would be much better then the democrats on day one. A lot of democrats would realize they don’t really want what the democrat party is offering and would beg to join us or vote for moderates . I have never seen a liberal that lived by the rules of the far left. Most of them live like republicans but are just weak minded.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 6:10 pm to Randman
Ammunition, water and gasoline
Posted on 9/24/20 at 6:48 pm to tjv305
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The republicans military would be much better then the democrats on day one. A lot of democrats would realize they don’t really want what the democrat party is offering and would beg to join us or vote for moderates . I have never seen a liberal that lived by the rules of the far left. Most of them live like republicans but are just weak minded.
Socialist democrat military would most likely be nonexistent, but you can bet they’d invite in the Chinese, Norks, Iranians, Russians, Mexicans, or anyone else they think they could use to do their bidding. Part of the security of this country has always been the oceans, and our Navy. We give our coasts to the enemy, and we have a fight on our hands, superior forces or not.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 6:49 pm to Randman
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This nation is headed for a Divorce
It’s just a matter of time. Before the end of this decade for sure.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 6:54 pm to BamaScoop
quote:You guys eat up the media doom and gloom, every single time.
We are headed for all out war in this nation.
If i didn't have a TV or internet, I'd legit have zero idea there's been riots and all that shite going on, my life hasn't changed even a little bit, and it won't. There won't be a war, the nation won't split in 2 in the next 10 years.
Life will go on, people will complain, a very tiny fraction of people will do a lot of stupid...so like since the beginning of time.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 7:03 pm to shel311
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If i didn't have a TV or internet, I'd legit have zero idea there's been riots and all that shite going on, my life hasn't changed even a little bit, and it won't. There won't be a war, the nation won't split in 2 in the next 10 years.
Life will go on, people will complain, a very tiny fraction of people will do a lot of stupid...so like since the beginning of time.
Right. And you won’t even know it when socialist democrats outlaw and confiscate guns (of the law abiding of course). You will be completely unaware when they decide that because of your political beliefs, you are no longer afforded freedom of speech, or the presumption of innocence. You won’t even be aware when the color of your skin means you can legally be treated differently, paid less, and taxed more. Give me a fricking break. I didn’t pull any of these out of thin air. Democrats have already overtly or tacitly condoned each of these positions.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:27 pm to Tigerlaff
We keep Yosemite but they can have DC.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:47 pm to troyt37
quote:Yep, and the country is totally going to split into 2 countries in less than a decade
Right. And you won’t even know it when socialist democrats outlaw and confiscate guns (of the law abiding of course). You will be completely unaware when they decide that because of your political beliefs, you are no longer afforded freedom of speech, or the presumption of innocence. You won’t even be aware when the color of your skin means you can legally be treated differently, paid less, and taxed more. Give me a fricking break. I didn’t pull any of these out of thin air. Democrats have already overtly or tacitly condoned each of these positions.
Fantasy world...
Posted on 9/24/20 at 10:02 pm to Tigerlaff
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This. However, I would absolutely support a constitutional amendment providing terms for peaceful, legal secession
Who keeps the nukes?
Posted on 9/24/20 at 10:14 pm to shel311
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Yep, and the country is totally going to split into 2 countries in less than a decade
Fantasy world...
I didn’t say that. I don’t think we split at all, other than skulls. Once the left has educated enough people to their true intentions, people will know that there’s no other option. It’s going to be a bloodbath.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:37 am to crazy4lsu
And America going bankrupt will ensure that China goes in influence as a result. All empires are vampiric in nature. I'd rather be the Hanseatic League than the Roman Empire.
I'm still trying to see why I should fear Chinese influence growing as if we don't have other options.
I'm still trying to see why I should fear Chinese influence growing as if we don't have other options.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 11:13 am to RollTide4Ever
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And America going bankrupt will ensure that China goes in influence as a result.
By virtue of its debt? As Greenspan said in 1997, a country cannot go bankrupt due to its own obligations. The danger is the interest payments on that debt, which can trigger inflation, especially when combined with massive civil unrest. There is also a deflationary danger, as the US population is teetering on contraction due to its aging population (specifically white people, where the median age is 30 years older than the median age of other ethnic groups in the country) which has caused deflation in Japan (which isn't necessarily a 1 to 1 test case).
It is more likely that instead of a Chinese lead world, the world will be multi-polar. The US squandered its relative advantage in 1991 being the lone superpower, acting myopically in numerous foreign policy adventures. Whether the foreign policy elite will admit that the world is multi-polar now is another thing.
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I'm still trying to see why I should fear Chinese influence growing as if we don't have other options.
Again, what externalities you should concern yourself with depends entirely on what political arrangement you envision. You haven't enumerated that arrangement, to my recall. But regardless, it is true that a complete Balkanization creates a completely new geopolitical climate which is difficult to predict, but based on history, it won't achieve any of the stated goals, especially limited government. Limited government is more likely under stronger Federalism than it would be among new nation-states, which would naturally compete with one another for access to resources.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 11:32 am to crazy4lsu
You're spouting gibberish as insight. You prob. think deflation is worse than inflation as well. 
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