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re: this is not the worst first
Posted on 11/22/25 at 5:19 pm to MMauler
Posted on 11/22/25 at 5:19 pm to MMauler
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Now, we have to get the Supreme Court to overturn this absurd notion that just because you’re born here you automatically get citizenship.
Ah, so you like the Constitution, except when you don't.
Well deal with it. They are every bit as much of an American citizen as you are.
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 5:30 pm to zeebo
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daughter lives in hammond, no pics, her maid rolled through a stop sign, stopped by police, over stayed her visa, called a lawyer, by the time lawyer got to hpd she was gone, picked up by ice. in her fifties, two teenage kids who are citizens, anchor babies i guess, in federal custody no info available, probably on her way back to mexico. i am all for thugs being deported but not this.
Don't care.
Deport.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 5:37 pm to Nurbis
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What is the punishment for that civil violation?
It depends. If the overstay is more than 180 days, but less than a year, it is a fine of $500-1000 and they cannot reenter for 3 years. If it is longer than a year then they can be barred from reentry for 10 years.
You will be happy to know that while visa overstay is not currently a crime there is a bill in Congress, "Visa Overstays Penalties Act", that would make it criminal.....Prison time. It has been bouncing around Congress for a couple years, not sure if it will pass.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 5:43 pm to zeebo
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two teenage kids who are citizens, anchor babies i guess, in federal custody no info available, probably on her way back to mexico. i am all for thugs being deported but not this.
This is the reason this has to be done. You broke the law, coming here illegally. Just because you had kids here doesn’t mean you are exempt from the laws.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 5:45 pm to retired_tiger
"….And subject to the jurisdiction thereof” – illegals are not. They are subject to the jurisdiction of their home countries. And so are their babies.
Nice f*ckung try.
Nice f*ckung try.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 5:48 pm to zeebo
Did she knowingly willingly enter the country illegally?
Posted on 11/22/25 at 5:49 pm to Bama Mountain
quote:They say no such thing.
The Supreme Court of the United States says it isn't.
Such a statement would immediately invalidate all immigration law.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 5:52 pm to Bama Mountain
quote:Translation, that’s including their deportation.
It depends. If the overstay is more than 180 days, but less than a year, it is a fine of $500-1000 and they cannot reenter for 3 years. If it is longer than a year then they can be barred from reentry for 10 years.
quote:Then there would be no penalties if it wasn’t a crime. Since you laid out the penalties for the CRIME, you should know that.
You will be happy to know that while visa overstay is not currently a crime
But you just gotta dig that hole deeper.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 6:00 pm to zeebo
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daughter lives in hammond, no pics, her maid rolled through a stop sign, stopped by police, over stayed her visa, called a lawyer, by the time lawyer got to hpd she was gone, picked up by ice. in her fifties, two teenage kids who are citizens, anchor babies i guess, in federal custody no info available, probably on her way back to mexico. i am all for thugs being deported but not this.
So you are okay with thugs getting deported but not criminals? What is your definition of a thug? Where is the line drawn on thuggery?
I say good job HPD and Ice. Your daughter should be investigated and maybe chargeD also based upon her knowledge of employing a illegal.
GEAUX ICE!!
This post was edited on 11/22/25 at 6:01 pm
Posted on 11/22/25 at 6:04 pm to llfshoals
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there would be no penalties if it wasn’t a crime. Since you laid out the penalties for the CRIME, you should know that.
Wrong. Civil infractions have penalties, like fines, loss of license, etc. That does not mean they are criminal.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 6:06 pm to MMauler
Not sure if you were trying to make a joke, but that was funny.
So you're claiming that a person born in the United States with non-citizen parents is not a citizen because "illegals are not" subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.
You didn't think this one out, did you? Ok, so let's take your idea and see where it takes us.
Let's assume that this person with non-citizen parents and who was born in the United States does something bad. Let's say that they stole your car, but then were caught by law enforcement.
Under that scenario, would you be claiming that they were not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States? Of course not. You would expect that the person would be charged with a crime, then be prosecuted in court, and then sentenced to prison time. Because yes he is subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.
There are certain foreign diplomats that would not be subject to our jurisdiction. And their child born in the United States would not be a citizen.
But the vast majority of those born here are citizens here.
So you're claiming that a person born in the United States with non-citizen parents is not a citizen because "illegals are not" subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.
You didn't think this one out, did you? Ok, so let's take your idea and see where it takes us.
Let's assume that this person with non-citizen parents and who was born in the United States does something bad. Let's say that they stole your car, but then were caught by law enforcement.
Under that scenario, would you be claiming that they were not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States? Of course not. You would expect that the person would be charged with a crime, then be prosecuted in court, and then sentenced to prison time. Because yes he is subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.
There are certain foreign diplomats that would not be subject to our jurisdiction. And their child born in the United States would not be a citizen.
But the vast majority of those born here are citizens here.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 6:23 pm to zeebo
quote:
daughter lives in hammond, no pics, her maid
Younger people think this is a totally normal expense to have but muh inflation.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 6:43 pm to Bama Mountain
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You can play semantic games, and spew insults, all you like.......but you are wrong.
Again lies and misdirection, this is typical of fools who are so self important that they don't realize how stupid they look.
You said
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Visa overstay is not criminal, it is a misdemeanor.
I said
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So you have no idea what words like criminal actually mean.
Which was true in every way.
You then like egotist without the IQ to back it up then tried to pretend that you didn't say it was a misdemeanor.
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Overstaying a visa is not a criminal offense, it is a civil violation.
See all you are doing right now is convincing everyone what a fool you are.
You tried to pretend you didn't say what you said, an honest person would say "I was mistaken when I said that, upon further googling I realized that I was wrong"
But no, your dishonesty shames you.
People make mistakes, but only fools and liars then try to cover them up.
This is your character, or more correctly lack of it, lying to a bunch of strangers on the internet when they can all see exactly what you said.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 6:44 pm to llfshoals
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They say no such thing.
Such a statement would immediately invalidate all immigration law.
Do you bother to read the thread before you post?
Arizona vs United States confirmed "it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain in the U.S" Which is why Congress is trying to pass "Visa Overstays Penalties Act", that would make overstays criminal, instead of civil, and expose them to prison time.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 6:46 pm to Narax
Yet another insult filled, content free, post trying to deflect from the fact that I am right.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 6:48 pm to zeebo
No one cares
Posted on 11/22/25 at 6:50 pm to zeebo
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maid
She made her own bed.
It’s called personal responsibility.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 6:51 pm to zeebo
Sorry your daughter’s maiden name had the law enforced on her. But they have to go. Most of us never said “only deport the gang member and thug illegals…” Deport them fricking all. She had two teenage kids? Sounds like she had plenty of time to obtain legal citizenship and didn’t care to do it, that’s HER fault… not mine or Trump’s or people who want immigration law to actually be enforced.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 6:58 pm to zeebo
Bet that didn’t go the way you thought it would
Posted on 11/22/25 at 7:00 pm to Bama Mountain
quote:Yeah I do.
Do you bother to read the thread before you post?
The overstay penalty remains the same. Deportation. The crime is the same, the mechanism for removal is civil. The ruling properly settles that they should not be part of the incarceration process absent other crimes.
In other words, it doesn’t mean what you seem to think.
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