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This is how Libs see Free Speech today
Posted on 2/3/17 at 9:44 am
Posted on 2/3/17 at 9:44 am
Posted on 2/3/17 at 9:46 am to TigersHuskers
There's nothing in there that's inaccurate...
Posted on 2/3/17 at 9:46 am to Salmon
I think that is a bad characterization of the liberal/free speech thing going on.
Posted on 2/3/17 at 9:46 am to TigersHuskers
I'm certainly not liberal and I can't find what is wrong with that image.
Posted on 2/3/17 at 9:46 am to TigersHuskers
This is actually correct
The issue is the response to free speech with violence
Eta: proud of PT for this response
The issue is the response to free speech with violence
Eta: proud of PT for this response
This post was edited on 2/3/17 at 9:55 am
Posted on 2/3/17 at 9:47 am to Salmon
quote:
...is it wrong?
the part about the boycott is pretty wrong
they're using force and intimidation to keep him off campus, not competing in the marketplace of ideas
think about it like how they like to pull fire alarms to force speakers to have to stop. it's like that but with either unruly protesters that make the situation so hostile the campus feels it has to cancel (UCLA cancelled before Milo even got to go for this reason) OR they create such a hostile environment that they cause the security/insurance to be so high that speakers/schools can't afford it
Posted on 2/3/17 at 9:49 am to TigersHuskers
Someone shared that on fbook with the caption, "This is what happens when a nazi, white supremacist shows up in Berkley".
Which, I took point with.
But the message in the cartoon is not wrong.
Which, I took point with.
But the message in the cartoon is not wrong.
Posted on 2/3/17 at 9:49 am to TigersHuskers
This cartoon is right and reasonable. It's just not representative of what is actually happening with many on the left right now. Nobody has the right to break the law in protest.
Posted on 2/3/17 at 9:50 am to SlowFlowPro
It should be mentioned that "fighting words" can get you arrested and is not protected.
Posted on 2/3/17 at 9:50 am to TigersHuskers
That is correct and I have no problem with it. However, that is not what is happening.
Posted on 2/3/17 at 9:50 am to TigersHuskers
this is correct
but I like how they imply people like Milo and Shapiro are getting talks cancelled because people don't want to hear them and aren't showing up as protest
but I like how they imply people like Milo and Shapiro are getting talks cancelled because people don't want to hear them and aren't showing up as protest
Posted on 2/3/17 at 9:50 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
they're using force and intimidation to keep him off campus, not competing in the marketplace of ideas
oh I agree
not sure if what the context of this comic is, but viewing outside of the Berkeley stuff, it isn't wrong
Posted on 2/3/17 at 9:51 am to Catman88
here is the thing, and i was going to mention it yesterday but got caught up in my own bullshite
OK you do this to Milo? i get it he's a douche and troll/instigator
you do it to Gavin McGinnes? i'll even give you that one
you do it to Ben Shapiro? #basedmom? Dave Rubin? something is wrong
OK you do this to Milo? i get it he's a douche and troll/instigator
you do it to Gavin McGinnes? i'll even give you that one
you do it to Ben Shapiro? #basedmom? Dave Rubin? something is wrong
Posted on 2/3/17 at 9:51 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
the part about the boycott is pretty wrong
From a legal perspective, which is what "free speech" is, it's not. Whether or not somebody should boycott is a totally different discussion.
quote:
think about it like how they like to pull fire alarms to force speakers to have to stop
Pulling a fire alarm when there's no fire is illegal I'm assuming? So yes committing an illegal act in protest is not only against the law but unethical and antithetical to the notions of the "marketplace of ideas" as you put it.
This post was edited on 2/3/17 at 9:53 am
Posted on 2/3/17 at 9:51 am to BamaCoaster
And he has that right. Endangering his life and the people around him in order to prevent him from free speech is illegal and the people protesting are simply no longer exercising their right to free speech and can be arrested.
This post was edited on 2/3/17 at 9:52 am
Posted on 2/3/17 at 9:52 am to Salmon
yes if this is a "Reddit" argument and not a "Berkley" argument, they are correct
Posted on 2/3/17 at 9:52 am to TigersHuskers
That is how EVERYONE should see FREE SPEECH.
Posted on 2/3/17 at 9:52 am to TigersHuskers
That's pretty much how the 1st amendment works.
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