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re: This is all you need to know about the SCOTUS hearing on birthright citizenship.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:44 am to TBoy
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:44 am to TBoy
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There is no textual foundation for the idea the 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution only applies to formerly enslaved people.
They had no idea that they needed to outlaw you transformers and pedophiles either.
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:58 am to SlowFlowPro
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If birthright citizenship was the point, that phrase would not be necessary
It is for the few exceptions
We don't have universal birthright citizenship. That phrase limits the population
It limits birthright citizenship to people who are here legally/lawfully.
The expression is that the phrase is "in your face" and it takes special effort to look beyond the phrase and ignore its meaning.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:03 am to TBoy
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There is no textual foundation for the idea the 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution only applies to formerly enslaved people. If that is all that the drafters wanted to do, they could have said that. But that is not what they wrote and certainly not what the states ratified.
I can actually accept this. I don't like it, but that's how it is.
My question though, is why do you seem so giddy about the way it is? Why do you come across as though you currently LIKE the way it is? Why would you be so adamant about changing things?
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:07 am to TBoy
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What does the text say?
There is no textual foundation for the idea the 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution only applies to formerly enslaved people. If that is all that the drafters wanted to do, they could have said that. But that is not what they wrote and certainly not what the states ratified.
What was the original intent and purpose of the 14th amendment?
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:13 am to TBoy
That is the only text that matters.
It’s ridiculous
About as ridiculous as all of your idiotic beliefs
It’s ridiculous
About as ridiculous as all of your idiotic beliefs
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:19 am to ChineseBandit58
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Birthright citizenship is a scam.
this is true
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It only benefits rich people who pay money to have their family and friends get a free green card
this is demonstrably false - IF that were the argument, the DEMOCRATs would be the ones objecting.
The PRIMARY 'benefit' of the current implementation goes to Democrats = that is why they oppose it so fervently - it would reduce their access of "ballot names"
DEMs ONLY desire is to enhance and protect election fraud.
It was only 10-15 years ago the vast majority of Democratic Socialists were staunchly against illegal immigration......my how quickly things have changed.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:20 am to Bass Tiger
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What was the original intent and purpose of the 14th amendment?
That is how leftists want to interpret the Constitution. They want to make it a living document and look at things like intent instead of the words of the statute or constitutional provision.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:26 am to deuceiswild
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My question though, is why do you seem so giddy about the way it is? Why do you come across as though you currently LIKE the way it is? Why would you be so adamant about changing things?
Don’t hold your breath for an answer. He can’t admit why. At least not honestly.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:28 am to loogaroo
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Roberts and ACB are worrying me right now.
Right now? They worry me all of the time. Roberts is definitely an owned man
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:31 am to MemphisGuy
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Now... that's (D)ifferent
Filth.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:32 am to loogaroo
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Roberts and ACB are worrying me right now.
Nah, it's specific to slaves.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:33 am to Bass Tiger
quote:This is the bottom-line argument the govt (Trump) is making...
equal protection under the law to formerly enslaved people.
SCOTUS will pass the buck in a already beaten down to their bank accounts special interests, and blackmail----worthless body of congress critters.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:33 am to TBoy
quote:Leftist: “Unfortunately, the text is not specific on illegal immigrants or tourism births. Although the drafters of the 14th didn’t mean it to include these people, that’s what it does. It was poorly written.”
There is no textual foundation for the idea the 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution only applies to formerly enslaved people. If that is all that the drafters wanted to do, they could have said that. But that is not what they wrote and certainly not what the states ratified.
Righties: “Okay, I can sort of agree with that, so why don’t we amend the Constitution to rectify this?”
Leftist: “Oh hell no! We need more third world and Communist voters. Also, let’s discuss what I think the 2nd Amendment really means and change all of the gun laws.”
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:34 am to jchamil
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Roberts and ACB are worrying me right now.
Right now? They worry me all of the time. Roberts is definitely an owned man
I'm gonna go way out on a limb and make a bold assumption.
The lawmakers who drafted the 14th amendment had no idea their amendment would allow for and be used by the "enemies from within" to destroy the constitutional republic through mass illegal immigration. If those lawmakers could have envisioned how their amendment is being used today by the "enemies from within" they would have been much more restrictive on the definition of birthright citizenship.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:39 am to TBoy
They didn’t have to deal with the democrat replacement theory or cartels transportation illegals.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:41 am to TBoy
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What does the text say?
Awful argument. There are limitations to application of all of the amendments. Shall we go through them? You want to start with the 2nd?
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:43 am to TBoy
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What does the text say? There is no textual foundation for the idea the 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution only applies to formerly enslaved people. If that is all that the drafters wanted to do, they could have said that. But that is not what they wrote and certainly not what the states ratified.
The entire debate is Rules as Written vs Rules as Intended.
And we know the court has often sided with RAI
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:49 am to loogaroo
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Roberts and ACB are worrying me right now.
Roberts: Should always worry you. Either bought and paid for or blackmailed.
ACB: Just has too much of the old feels in her. Can't be trusted.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:56 am to Bass Tiger
Why is it so important for the Dems to have all of these illegal aliens, birthright citizens, and whatever they are here to begin with?
Oh, I forgot...........................to strengthen their voting block.
But I'm just curious: how many Dems have illegals and birthrights and such living with them, since they care so much?
Oh, I forgot...........................to strengthen their voting block.
But I'm just curious: how many Dems have illegals and birthrights and such living with them, since they care so much?
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:58 am to TBoy
“ All persons born or naturalized in the”.
You could argue clearly that the point of stressing naturalized after born in was a clarification of actual people living here as their country, naturalization being the inclusion of slaves that we’re here but not considered actual citizens
You could argue clearly that the point of stressing naturalized after born in was a clarification of actual people living here as their country, naturalization being the inclusion of slaves that we’re here but not considered actual citizens
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