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re: This board is not an echo chamber.

Posted on 8/9/24 at 11:49 am to
Posted by TarheelPete
Carrboro
Member since Jun 2024
615 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 11:49 am to
In my short time here I have noticed there are just as many commies and queers as you find on the ZZL PT and Reddit. The big difference is this place doesn't ban people who oppose sexually mutilating children and state sponsored censorship / persecution / assassinations of political opponents.

There is definitely more of one camp than the other but it is closer to 35/65 than 5/95 like the crybabies think.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
3916 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 11:49 am to
It is a crowd-sourced echo chamber rather than mod-enforced echo chamber.

Post anything remotely perceived as anti Trump and you’ll be derided across multiple threads in an attempt to make you stop posting.

But you can still post, just no one here wants you to.

It doesn’t bother me, personally, I just think it’s childish.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124829 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 11:50 am to
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policing group norms with hostility and ridicule


Yup. That’s how society works. Welcome.
Posted by Gifman
Member since Jan 2021
17014 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 11:53 am to
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90% of the posters resort to namecalling when anybody with a different opinion chimes in


You’re way too sensitive. Do you cry when this happens?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26795 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 11:57 am to
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just no one here wants you to.


It's typically a smaller but very vocal minority that doesn't want you to.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34324 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 11:58 am to
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Yup. That’s how society works. Welcome.


Actually, it is a symptom of societal breakdown.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
3916 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 11:59 am to
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That’s how society works. Welcome.


I’m intrigued to know where you are that people commonly call each other “fricking dipshit retarded pedo groomers” in public
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88488 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 11:59 am to
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It 100% is an echo chamber.
In comparison to what?

I’m more than fine labeling it as such. As long as it’s put in proper context.
Posted by Broadside Bob
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2012
1600 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 12:01 pm to
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It 100% is an echo chamber.


Yep, and it's a very dangerous place to be. The most dangerous thing about an echo chamber is that you will very rarely recognize that you're in one.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124829 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 12:03 pm to
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I’m intrigued to know where you are that people commonly call each other “fricking dipshit retarded pedo groomers” in public


If someone is supporting sexualizing and fetishizing young kids, then they should be called “fricking dipshit retarded pedo groomers” in public. The fact that this doesn’t happen often enough is a sign of the breakdown of our society.

Hostility and mocking as a means enforcing standard morality should be practiced more often.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88488 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 12:04 pm to
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It 100% is an echo chamber.
What is a good non echo chamber left leaning forum I can post on?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124829 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 12:04 pm to
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Actually, it is a symptom of societal breakdown.


No, it’s actually not.

Progressives love to make the response to degeneracy the story. The degeneracy is still the real story.
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
7837 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 12:05 pm to
That’s like the liberals saying Twitter didn’t become a leftist echo chamber, except your claim is even worse than that.

It wasn’t an echo chamber to them because they agreed with it.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22853 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 12:07 pm to
I see it as a place to communicate with like minded people. There is enough diversity of opinion that it is not really an echo chamber.
Posted by TexasForever81
Member since Mar 2023
609 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 12:08 pm to
It is not an echo chamber. I agree.

Go to surlyhorns if you want an echo chamber.

Ideas here that aren’t conservative may get poopooed on more often than not. But you’re not going to get “crowdsourced” by the dissenting voices.

Thank you for that reminder.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34324 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 12:09 pm to
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Actually, it is a symptom of societal breakdown.



To elaborate on this point -- civil society used to act as a kind of control on extreme views. I'm talking about your family, friends, informal networks. Your interest groups, community groups, church. Political discussion happened here -- with people you actually knew and needed on like a day-to-day basis.

Civil society thus had two functions: (1) the mediation and validation of information and (2) the civil enforcement of the boundaries of acceptability.

Most people now talk politics online, and the functionality of civil society has broken down. Left with no checks on extremism, people are now "free" to develop increasingly radical views in online groups. This radicalization, of course, makes it difficult for those individuals to return to civil society and act, well, civilly. That's why so many MAGA guys now feel alienated from their own families and former friends. That's why they no longer donate or volunteer in their communities.

Thus, online political discussion is both a cause and a symptom of societal breakdown.



Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124829 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 12:09 pm to
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That's why so many MAGA guys now feel alienated from their own families and former friends. That's why they no longer donate or volunteer in their communities.


Me when I make shite up.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
3916 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 12:09 pm to
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If someone is supporting sexualizing and fetishizing young kids, then they should be called “fricking dipshit retarded pedo groomers” in public. The fact that this doesn’t happen often enough is a sign of the breakdown of our society.



I think the question begged here is whether or not someone is doing as you describe by voting democrat.


If you think 50% of the country is supporting that, I can see why one would be constantly at odds
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55401 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 12:11 pm to
Problem is, outside of SFP, who isn’t a progressive IRL, no one can debate from a leftist point of view without revealing themselves to be a nut job. That’s one of the main reasons I left the Democrat party.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124829 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 12:11 pm to
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If you think 50% of the country is supporting that, I can see why one would be constantly at odds


I don’t think 50% of the country supports that.

50% of the country will vote for a candidate that supports it.

Why do you think that is?
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