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re: They have taken over, by force, Trump Towers.

Posted on 3/13/25 at 7:28 pm to
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32623 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 7:28 pm to
Is he charged with any crimes?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52600 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 7:28 pm to
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He should fire his security folks at that building for allowing that to happen.

How do you stop it? They just start walking in, which anyone can do, and the next thing you know there are 50 of them. You might answer that they should have taken out tasers and zapped them, but that’s just what they wanted, and for THAT Trump would fire them.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 7:28 pm to
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Trespass on private property is a federal matter? Federalism right here, folks.
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A residence of the sitting POTUS is in that building. Has to have some impact on who runs the show, no?

Whether Barney Fife or SS does the guarding? Sure.

Applicable property law, God I hope not. Talk about elitism and the Imperial Presidency …
Posted by Tigertuxedo
Member since Dec 2023
175 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 7:30 pm to
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he charged with any crimes?


Nope.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
15194 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 7:31 pm to
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Elon Musk is illegally shutting down agencies


Nope.

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people who are protesting are somehow able to be deported and taking somewhere without their permission without committing a crime


Wrong again.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35881 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 7:31 pm to
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Applicable property law, God I hope not. Talk about elitism and the Imperial Presidency …

My thinking was that there would be superseding federal charges related to POTUS' residences, not just naked usurpation of State property law.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52600 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 7:32 pm to
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Applicable property law, God I hope not. Talk about elitism and the Imperial Presidency

No, we’re talking about suppressing an insurrection.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 7:33 pm to
Sounds like some all-american baws need to show up and frick em up. I know that's what they want, and I'm getting tired of watching all of this. It's about time we return to the America that will punch anyone in the mouth.


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Trespass on private property is a federal matter?



If there is anyone with the last name Trump thst is in the building, I would say that it is.
This post was edited on 3/13/25 at 7:38 pm
Posted by Ebridg3
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2016
2992 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 7:35 pm to
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Speaking of which. I thought right Wingers were all about the constitution. Funny how it doesn't seem like any of you are when Elon Musk is illegally shutting down agencies that are investigating his companies and people who are protesting are somehow able to be deported and taking somewhere without their permission without committing a crime. I guess you only get outraged whenever people trespass in someone's building that like, huh? Wow


Ah yes, the usual attempt to deflect instead of addressing the hypocrisy. So let’s break this down:

Elon Musk 'illegally shutting down agencies'? What actual laws were broken? Or do you just mean he's resisting politically motivated investigations? Because if we’re suddenly pretending government agencies are always impartial and righteous, that’s some next-level naivety.

Protesters being deported? Are you saying non-citizens who break laws shouldn't be subject to deportation? Because that’s literally how every country operates. Also, if these people didn’t commit a crime, what exactly were they arrested for? You can’t have it both ways.

Trespassing in a private building isn’t a crime now? Interesting, because last time I checked, breaking into a federal building on January 6th was treated like the crime of the century, and those people didn’t get the luxury of being bussed out and released elsewhere.

So which is it? Are laws supposed to apply equally, or only when it benefits your side?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 7:36 pm to
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Applicable property law, God I hope not. Talk about elitism and the Imperial Presidency
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No, we’re talking about suppressing an insurrection.

Penrod, I generally respect you as a poster, but that is just silly.

Those people are no more trying to overthrow the US government than are post-Super-Bowl rioters.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
46603 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 7:36 pm to
In addition to them being arrested, we also need to find out who is 1) organizing this, and 2) who is funding it.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Member since Sep 2013
35135 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 7:37 pm to
I would seal the building and fill the lobby with killer bees.
Posted by Ebridg3
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2016
2992 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 7:38 pm to
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Those people are no more trying to overthrow the US government than are post-Super-Bowl rioters.


o now we're comparing a coordinated, politically motivated takeover of private property to post-Super Bowl rioters? Come on. Super Bowl rioters aren’t backed by organized political groups, they aren’t traveling across state lines to send a political message, and they aren’t being framed as ‘activists’ by the media when they loot and destroy property.

If this were a group of people from the other side storming a building in the name of their cause, you'd be calling it an insurrection without hesitation. But since it fits your narrative, suddenly it’s just ‘rowdy behavior’ and ‘not that serious’?

Either breaking the law is breaking the law, or we’re playing favorites. Which is it?
Posted by Tigertuxedo
Member since Dec 2023
175 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 7:39 pm to
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Nope


Oh I guess all of those United States judges are wrong. Money that is appropriated by Congress is being messed with by the executive branch. That is unconstitutional no matter how you try to do mental gymnastics.

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Wrong again.


I'm afraid you're about to go 0-2. It is certainly alarming and definitely illegal. If he was being arrested for a crime then why was he shipped all the way to Louisiana
Posted by pizzathehut
west monroe
Member since Jul 2016
1169 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 7:41 pm to
Ti.e to recall the Pinkerton detectives
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52600 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 7:45 pm to
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Those people are no more trying to overthrow the US government than are post-Super-Bowl rioters.

Of course they are not. The point was that neither were the Jan 6ers. No one is trying to overthrow the government by showing up at a demonstration without weapons.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
15194 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 7:51 pm to
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Oh I guess all of those United States judges are wrong. Money that is appropriated by Congress is being messed with by the executive branch. That is unconstitutional no matter how you try to do mental gymnastics.


Dude... you said ELON MUSK is doing it. He's not. Talk about mental gymnastics.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26370 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 8:21 pm to
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That seems a bit harsh.


Agree, I was just answering a question of what it is.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 8:28 pm to
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Either breaking the law is breaking the law, or we’re playing favorites. Which is it?
It would certainly appear that the trespassers at Trump Tower were breaking the law.

But anyone who thinks that they were involved in an insurrection against the government of the United States ... that person is an idiot.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 8:33 pm to
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Those people are no more trying to overthrow the US government than are post-Super-Bowl rioters.
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Of course they are not. The point was that neither were the Jan 6ers. No one is trying to overthrow the government by showing up at a demonstration without weapons.

I agree, and I've said the same thing 100 times. They were LARPing and things got out of control. No more.
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