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re: They are going to go for campaign finance violations.

Posted on 12/7/18 at 6:16 pm to
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 6:16 pm to
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Of what?


It's GeorgeWest, one of the quietest, but most delusional left posters on this board.

He's quietly made some extraordinary predictions that failed, such as the Dems taking the senate and Trump being impeached and jailed long before now.

He's very old IIRC so give him a little bit of slack though.
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 6:16 pm to
Trump had his own money to buy someone's silence and Cohen would have never lied about it if there was no investigation

witch hunt!
Posted by Cali 4 LSU
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 6:20 pm to
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They can’t prove anything. It is also a really stupid situation to go after him about. It would look really bad for the Dems imo.

I think it would give Trump even more ammo in 2020 as they look even more partisan.


This is what the one guy was saying on the panel (he must be dem). He said it will be interesting to see what the dems do with it.
Posted by Cali 4 LSU
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 6:22 pm to
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Mueller is a true piece of shite.


Yea another former federal prosecutor (again, can't remember who it was) said that it's interesting how all these things weren't passed off except to SDNY & it seems like things would boomerang right back to Mueller.
Posted by CelticDog
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 6:26 pm to
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Pretty sure the Obama campaign was found guilty - and FINED for campaign finance violations.


yep. They missed a reporting deadline.

Nothing about bribing hookers so the fundamentalists did not know.
This post was edited on 12/7/18 at 6:27 pm
Posted by Cali 4 LSU
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 6:26 pm to
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This would be an idiotic hill to die on for them. I don't see it happening.




The angle is: they are framing it that he was trying to influence the election by doing these payoffs, not sure the significance of that.
Posted by Cali 4 LSU
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 6:29 pm to
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bribing hookers


Are NDA bribes?
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 6:32 pm to
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yep. They missed a reporting deadline. 


Uh, no. That was only a small portion of it, but nice try making it seem more innocent than it was. His fine was the largest of all time at $375,000.

The major sticking point for the FEC appeared to be a series of missing 48-hour notices for nearly 1,300 contributions totaling more than $1.8 million — an issue that lawyers familiar with the commission’s work say the FEC takes seriously. The notices must be filed on contributions of $1,000 or more that are received within the 20-day window of Election Day.

More than half of those contributions were transferred from the Obama Victory Fund,a joint committee between the campaign and the Democratic National Committee.

Sources said the fine resulting from the settlement agreement has been paid, with $230,000 coming from the Obama campaign’s coffers and the remainder from the DNC.

The document outlined other violations, such as erroneous contribution dates on some campaign reports. The Obama campaign was also late returning some contributions that exceeded the legal limit.

Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 6:41 pm to
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Are NDA bribes?


If they are, there won't be enough clean congressmen to run our country.
This post was edited on 12/7/18 at 6:42 pm
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 6:44 pm to
Wait, I thought Mueller’s probe was on Russian Collusion? How does campaign finance fall under this umbrella?


Good gosh libs, always for the headlines - nothing of substance
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 6:48 pm to
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Wait, I thought Mueller’s probe was on Russian Collusion? How does campaign finance fall under this umbrella?
This was based on a filing by federal prosecutors in the Southern District of New York, since we’ve known for months that this was referred to them and not directly under Mueller’s investigation.
Posted by SCLibertarian
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 6:51 pm to
If campaign finance violations are themselves sufficient for impeachment, every member of Congress would be in trouble.
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 7:10 pm to
that is how Mueller is trying to avoid his investigation being called a witch hunt by giving this to another jurisdiction

but make no mistake this is what he wanted
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 7:11 pm to
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they are framing it that he was trying to influence the election by doing these payoffs, not sure the significance of that.


Considering Trump can prove that he had paid off other women in the same exact fashion prior to ever running for office.....they got nada, zilch, zero!
Posted by Robin Masters
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Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 7:13 pm to
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This is only the beginning


Of democrats decent into obscurity. I agree.
Posted by IllegalPete
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 7:17 pm to
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Clinton campaigns both had major campaign finance violations and were found guilty; they were ordered to pay fines and everyone moved on with their day.



I wonder how paying millions of dollars to a foreign agent (who literally colluded with Russians to affect an election), funneled through a law office to conceal payments, which were not reported, will play out.
This post was edited on 12/7/18 at 7:19 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 7:25 pm to
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If campaign finance violations are themselves sufficient for impeachment, every member of Congress would be in trouble.
I think this got passed off to the SDNY because it was only tangentially related to the investigation and likely minor overall.

The person that intrigues me is Flynn. The most troubling story that emerged from all of this was Flynn illegally working as a foreign agent on behalf of Erdogan, all while he was becoming a totalitarian.

But this and anything like it, seemed to be ignored by both sides, since he pleaded (or pled) guilty to lying to investigators. And apparently that plea involved a significant amount of cooperation and the legal fees have led to near financial ruin.

But if that was the only crime he committed, why would a really minor crime require such cooperation; what was the cooperation for; and why would it be so costly to defend?

Couldn’t it be that he was actually facing far more serious crimes (e.g., working as a foreign operative), and those crimes were part of something far more serious which required the costs and involvement to plea down to something minor? If true, that doesn’t mean Trump himself has any criminal involvement, but that would still mean that the investigation itself could be quite justified, regardless of who it actually implicates.
Posted by Cali 4 LSU
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 7:50 pm to
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I wonder how paying millions of dollars to a foreign agent (who literally colluded with Russians to affect an election & a duly elected president of the United States!!!), funneled through a law office to conceal payments, which were not reported, will play out.


FIFY
Posted by TuDog
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 7:51 pm to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 7:54 pm to
Wait. You still think there was Trump collusion with? Yikes.
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