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re: These cops in North Louisiana need to go to prison for this unnecessary chokehold (Video)

Posted on 8/4/18 at 1:14 pm to
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 8/4/18 at 1:14 pm to
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but it’s his own fault.


The man was mentally insane.



People apparently do not understand that not every human on earth is on the same page at the same time.
Posted by Jeff Boomhauer
Arlen, TX
Member since Jun 2016
3552 posts
Posted on 8/4/18 at 1:46 pm to
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Why do people fight with police? You're not gonna win. They will bring 20, 50, or 100 if they have to.

I have no sympathy for people who act this way. Go to jail and if you have a problem, fight it in court.


This doesn't always work for everyone. There are a lot of people that don't have the disposable funds to pay a bail bondsman. A large portion of the population would lose their job if they're arrested...especially if they are late getting to work. Even if a person manages to bond out and keep their job, they now have to hire an expensive lawyer to represent them.
Posted by Rougarou13
Brookhaven MS
Member since Feb 2015
6839 posts
Posted on 8/4/18 at 1:56 pm to
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because the average cop IQ now hovers in the golf score range


My golf score or your golf score? If you go by mine thems some pretty smart cops.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89496 posts
Posted on 8/4/18 at 4:02 pm to
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Anything north of I-10 is North Louisiana. Period.


So, Opelousas and Mandeville? Good to know.

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But that's not what this thread is about. GTFO.




Fair enough. I agree with you.
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 8/4/18 at 4:07 pm to
shite cops. any cop who watches crap like this happen and does nothing is also a shite cop. the whole thin blue line thing means that most cops are shite cops.
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 8/4/18 at 4:11 pm to
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"all cops are stupid and evil'


not all. most. the problem is the good guys who join end up turning a blind eye to a lot of the corruption that goes on. they are pressured in to being complacent. I have a close friend who left BRPD because he "did not want to be a part of an organization that routinely violates the rights of individuals". he said they knew how ignorant people were of their rights and constantly used that against them in order to make arrests. he started trying to bring attention to that type of stuff and was getting a lot of shite for it. he lost a couple of details and was put on shite areas to patrol. he couldn't do anything about the corruption so he left the force so as not to be a part of it.
Posted by umop_apisdn
Member since Sep 2017
3673 posts
Posted on 8/4/18 at 4:13 pm to
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This doesn't always work for everyone.


Incorrect.

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There are a lot of people that don't have the disposable funds to pay a bail bondsman. A large portion of the population would lose their job if they're arrested...especially if they are late getting to work. Even if a person manages to bond out and keep their job, they now have to hire an expensive lawyer to represent them.


How much MORE money will they have to pay if they resist arrest, fight the police, have to pay a bail bondsman, face extra charges, still going to miss work, still locked up, higher bail and hire an expensive attorney even though they will secure being arrested for resisting and fighting the police?

Making things worse is just idiotic math, comply and fight another day, the smarter way. Amplifying charges, fines and jail time along with endangering ones self is just dumb TBH.
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
10763 posts
Posted on 8/4/18 at 4:41 pm to
“The outstanding warrant for simple criminal trespassing and attempted unauthorized entry into a dwelling stemmed from Frank’s dispute with his neighbors, according to the Sheriff’s Office. Disputes with other neighbors resulted in similar charges in 2016, but the District Attorney’s Office declined to prosecute and Frank received court-ordered treatment at VA hospital in Pineville. Frank had denied there was a warrant when officers stopped him along the highway that day.”

The lack of patience and common sense by these cops is unreal. Yes, it is easy to say he should have complied but we have become used to this line of thinking.

This guy wasn’t going to go anywhere and did not present an immediate threat. Let him go home and bring the warrant with you along with mental health assistance or a family member that can handle him.

This statement is the issue. There are some who need to be arrested right then and there but not everyone is the same.

“When a police officer says that they have a warrant for you, you need to get off the tractor and come with us, that’s not negotiable. You can’t negotiate that, even if it turns out there wasn’t a warrant or it was an invalid warrant,” Stinson said.

Why is there some huge rush that requires you to exert lethal force to control someone, especially someone who has his history?
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 8/4/18 at 5:18 pm to
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No, this was just a case of Frank playing the normal dindu game of "what'd I do". He's dead now because he's stupid plain and simple


Sad because I'd bet the farm that he would dance circles around you mentally
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 8/4/18 at 5:57 pm to
Those were some dumbass cops. At one point you have the cop choking him trying to push him forward and at the same time another dumbass cop grabbing his arm and pulling him in the opposite direction while another dumbass cop is yelling quit resisting.

Then there was only one cop that had the self awareness to ask if the dead man was breathing.

All of this could have been avoided if those cops didn't have the mindset of comply or die. Simply telling the man what the warrant was for could have stopped all of that. But no, do not question my authority
Posted by Wheaux
San Diego
Member since Jul 2018
1748 posts
Posted on 8/4/18 at 6:02 pm to
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have no sympathy for people who act this way. Go to jail and if you have a problem, fight it in court.
You have no problem with them walking up to him and giving no reason but to say they had a warrant and him just asking to see it? Sure, he could have stepped down, but what the cops did was completely bullshite.

And I support cops, but I don't support idiots.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 8/4/18 at 6:13 pm to
As someone that has worked in the field 18 years I can say I have no desire to shoot, fight, or argue with anyone while at work. I really just want to go to work, do a great job, have everyone like me, then go home to my family. So, with all the y’all of blood thirsty cops just know I work some and even the rest of us think they are douche bags.

On this incident, I see one huge issue. The choke from behind causing the death. I really can’t think of any use of force tactics that train officers to do that. So, this officer was not using his training and instead used other force which caused the death. The department could easily throw the officer under the bus and say he didn’t follow his training and feed him to the wolves.

These officers simply just didn’t like being told no and wanted show him who is boss. While policy does say the guy was resisting commands and officers could go to hands on at that point, it maybe wasn’t necessary. Jerk the keys from the tractor and go from there.

Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48888 posts
Posted on 8/4/18 at 6:14 pm to
THats not north LA MF
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8175 posts
Posted on 8/4/18 at 7:00 pm to
These heroes protect and serve like a motherfricker.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 8/4/18 at 7:03 pm to
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These officers simply just didn’t like being told no and wanted show him who is boss. While policy does say the guy was resisting commands and officers could go to hands on at that point, it maybe wasn’t necessary. Jerk the keys from the tractor and go from there.


Refreshing perspective my man.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 8/4/18 at 7:03 pm to
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My golf score or your golf score? If you go by mine thems some pretty smart cops.


Lol
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42555 posts
Posted on 8/4/18 at 7:06 pm to
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Here's the Youtube Link for the video


I looked at the video from beginning to end. I am not an expert in martial arts. If there is something the cops did wrong it would have to be in the use of the 'choke hold' - to my uneducated eye the cop was just trying to subdue a big man resisting arrest.

There was no need to come close to lethal application of force. But I will admit I dont give a shite what happens to a guy who resists numerous polite requests to comply - then gets verbally abusive with the cop trying to reason with him. At that point, I am only interested in the cops.

If that maneuver is illegal, then the cop needs to be severely sanctioned, even charge with manslaughter - or murder - depending on the severity of the tactic. If, as it appears, it is not an acceptable maneuver then the cop is on his own - I;ll not defend him.

But neither will I shed a tear for the jerk who was on the receiving end. He made his choice and suffered the consequences. Sometimes you don't want to spit in the eye of what might be a crazy man - just because you have seen others do it and get rich from the lawsuits or live in internet glory. Sometimes the best way to to act like a normal human being.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 8/4/18 at 10:05 pm to
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But I will admit I dont give a shite what happens to a guy who resists numerous polite requests to comply - then gets verbally abusive with the cop trying to reason with him. At that point, I am only interested in the cops.


That’s how the cops think, too. Which means that every mentally ill person who comes in contact with cops is at risk of getting killed by police.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
39894 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:16 am to
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This doesn't always work for everyone. There are a lot of people that don't have the disposable funds to pay a bail bondsman. A large portion of the population would lose their job if they're arrested...especially if they are late getting to work. Even if a person manages to bond out and keep their job, they now have to hire an expensive lawyer to represent them.


Exactly none of that is the cops issue to take into account.

Do you realize if the cops DONT make the arrest, they lose their job?
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:40 am to
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If this all they really live for, they can go join the military and request an assignment in the Mideast.

But they don't like that kind of 24/7 commitment and would miss air conditioning, TV, eating out at Applebee's and Chilis and hooking up with trashy badge bunnies that smell like an ashtray.






fricking...




shite brought a tear to my eye.
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