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Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:14 am to AUauditor
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He had a 3.4 in HS (26 ACT, ADHD), 2.9 at GA Tech
How did he get into Ga Tech with those stats?
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:15 am to PsychTiger
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Who needs to know math when you know pronouns?
These kids growing up will never be untethered from tech, they cannot function without it.
Problem solving skills are a dying art., indicative of the lower IQ scores across the globe. We are losing our humanity and ability to expand our minds.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:16 am to RogerTheShrubber
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indicative of the lower IQ scores across the globe
Link?
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:25 am to SlowFlowPro
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How did he get into Ga Tech with those stats
lol…valid question.
At certain GA community colleges with high standards, if you get an Associates with at least a 3.0 in math and engineering, you are automatically accepted at GATech. Probably backfilling for kids who could not hack it right out of HS.
I refused to allow my son to go off to school right out of HS, because he did not learn how to study. He learned under fire at the community college, which kept him from being a kid who created debt and moved back home, having to be “backfilled.”
If not for his ADHD (and getting off medicine in 10th grade), his GPA and ACT would have likely been even better, but he was still immature. However, his work ethic is impeccable, and he is kicking butt in the working world.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:28 am to ManBearSharkReb
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Saw something today that said over 50% of recent College grads are employed in jobs that only require a high school education.
This is a big issue. Many of them get degrees in cookie cutter majors without researching the earning potential or job potential of that degree. Colleges and universities have gotten rich from tuition/student loans, etc. It is a scam. They offer worthlesss degrees and will take anyone that can pay tuition.
The secondary system has pushed the idea of you are a failure if you do not get a four year degree for 30+ years. This has been a tragedy and an injustice. Refusal to promote/fund quality technical programs and using them as dumping grounds has really hurt. There are thousands of jobs in the technical areas now and the pay is often much better than they can earn with one if those worthless 4 year degrees.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:30 am to SlowFlowPro
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indicative of the lower IQ scores across the globe
Link?
Youre 20 years late Bubba.
The Flynn effect started waning several decades ago.
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Cognitive abilities declined between 2006 and 2018 across three of four broad domains of intelligence, the study found. Researchers tracked falling scores in logic, vocabulary, visual and mathematical problem-solving and analogies
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These raw scores have been rising on a variety of standard IQ tests for over half a century. That may sound odd if you think of IQ as largely hereditary. But current IQ tests are designed to measure core cognitive skills such as short-term memory, problem-solving speed and visual processing, and rising scores show that these cognitive capabilities can actually be sharpened by environmental factors such as higher-quality schools and more demanding workplaces.
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However, a 2018 study of Norway has punctured these theories by showing that IQs are dropping not just across societies but within families. In other words, the issue is not that educated Norwegians are increasingly outnumbered by lower-IQ immigrants or the children of less-educated citizens. Even children born to high-IQ parents are slipping down the IQ ladder.
Some environmental factor — or collection of factors — is causing a drop in the IQ scores of parents and their own children,
Hman beings are less capable than ever of caring for their own affairs, and its getting worse.
LINK
This post was edited on 3/2/24 at 9:32 am
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:32 am to SlowFlowPro
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So how do you explain the vast increase in things like AP classes over time, if nobody is getting educated today?
I didn’t say no one was being educated. I indicated that the schools are focused on the testing as their top priority.
College enrollment is projected to increase in the next decade and AP courses are one tool that separates applicants qualifications.
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Those people can succeed anywhere.
That is kinda my point in that these folks don’t require a degree.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:33 am to AUauditor
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At certain GA community colleges with high standards, if you get an Associates with at least a 3.0 in math and engineering, you are automatically accepted at GATech
Ah OK, a very necessary element had been added
I actually like that policy a lot.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:33 am to weptiger
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That is kinda my point in that these folks don’t require a degree.
degrees pigeionhole people.
Credentialism is good for people who cant self manage well, but its not good for creative or enterprising people.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:34 am to RogerTheShrubber
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indicative of the lower IQ scores across the globe
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a 2018 study of Norway has punctured these theories by showing that IQs are dropping not just across societies but within families. In other words, the issue is not that educated Norwegians
What else do you have about "the glob"?
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:35 am to weptiger
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That is kinda my point in that these folks don’t require a degree.
Why did you skip the last portion of my comment?
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The trade skill portion actually limits their potential success (trade output is lower margin than other products that person could sell).
They can succeed, but it's still suboptimal
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:35 am to AU86
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It is a scam.
It is not a scam.
The college said, "We will teach you these things for this amount of money."
If the college taught the student what they said they would teach them, it's not a scam.
It's up to the student to determine the value of having the degree, not the college. There's no way the college can possibly determine that for the student.
When people call colleges "scams" it is reflective of how the culture of victimhood has prevailed and how entitled people have become to expect someone else to work their life out for them.
Populism at its finest.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:37 am to wackatimesthree
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It's up to the student to determine the value of having the degree,
Agree.. If we had wiser consumers, we would not have to deal with so many laws and regulations.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:38 am to AU86
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There are thousands of jobs in the technical areas now and the pay is often much better than they can earn with one if those worthless 4 year degrees.
And if that market corrects by thousands of otherwise-would-be college students becoming trade school students, it will push the pay for those jobs back down.
Will trade schools be a scam then?
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:38 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Agree
Not surprised.
As you are one of the few conservatives left on this board (and anywhere else, for that matter).
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:41 am to anc
I went to HS with some really smart people, future doctors, lawyers, business owners…and can only think of a few that scored 30 on the ACT. It seems common today for kids to get a 30. They are either teaching the test or the test is easier.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:45 am to DMAN1968
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Breydon won't be plowing fields when he grows up.
That's what the parents say anyway.
Seriously. They offer no form agriculture related curriculum in any of the Baton Rouge private schools. As far as these kids know everything just comes from the store.
I wanted to start a 4-H club at a middle school and I was told they have enough clubs.
You would think a school like Catholic would offer some sort of shop class considering all the engineering classes they offer. Maybe even a half semester course in horiculture or how to make a plant grow. Nope!
This post was edited on 3/2/24 at 9:49 am
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:48 am to eitek1
Because she usually just sets timer on her phone for 30 minutes.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:58 am to SippyCup
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I see this with my 13 year olds age group. The standardized testing is what separates the A students. All A’s no longer equates to top of the class.
Same. Nothing seems hard and they never have homework. The whole school is in Beta Club.
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