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re: There is no way this $300B surrender package gets through congress

Posted on 6/15/26 at 5:55 pm to
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98854 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 5:55 pm to
That certainly makes sense. You cant even read a CPI report yet cry about inflation

Now you are crying about this deal that you have no idea whats in it

Must be a slow day in the park for you
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
2161 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 5:58 pm to
"Why should they have to pay 300 billion in 2026 when Trump said we accomplished this in 2025 with operation midnight hammer? This makes no sense. Make it make sense."

this is going to be hard for you to understand. Because it doesn't come from CNN or MSNBC. But I'll try once more......

they don't HAVE to pay. They WANT to pay. In all likelyhood they AGREED to pay before this operation started.

Unlike you, they don't see Trump as a liar or Hitler or anything else. They see Trump as the solution to their regional problem that is/was Iran.

Trump is the only President in 47 years willing to do what all the others have been saying..... neuter Iran. The regional power. The soon to be nuclear regional power.

"they" don't think wiht their arse like you do. They recognized Trump and the US were the only power that could and would neutralize their biggest regional threat. And they trust Trump. I know that's impossible for you to comprehend which is why your pea brain can't grasp the rest of this.

They don't care whether 2025 was successful or not. They don't see Trump as "lying" over 2025. They see Trump as their ally. And they are want/wanted their ally to bring Iran to it's military and production capacities knees and make it negotiate the elimination of nuclear material and capabilites.

They wanted these things to happen. They know Trump is the only guy to make it happen. And they ARE HAPPY to foot the bill for reconstruction after it happened.

Here's the next piece that will blow your TDS infested mind. If it happens in 2026 and they happily foot the bill..... if Iran starts over again the next day they will be OK with footing the bill. They wanted this reduced back to stage 0. They understand there's no guarantee the same regime won't start over again.

Again, they understand the difference between mistakes and lies and the difference between delivering services and guaranteeing something forever. That starts because they trust Trump and his intentions. They don't start with a TDS addled brain who sees him as Hitler like your dumb arse does.

I'm sure this didn't move your needle of actual comprehension at all.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12540 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 5:58 pm to
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Now you are crying about this deal that you have no idea whats in it


Details have been released. Keep in mind before this war the straight was open and Iran wasn’t being given 300 billion fricking dollars to pretend they won’t do anything nefarious with it. This should have never happened. Imagine being such a Trump sycophantic fool you think Iran will be truthful about anything regarding obtaining and then allocating the 300 billion.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37866 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 6:00 pm to
They were never worried about Iran's nuclear capability and truth be told, neither were we until Bibi set wheels in motion that we were powerless to stop. We had the JCPOA which was ostensibly working until 2018 when Trump decided it was a bad deal and left it.

We created the current problem .....you know, the problem that started at the end of February, counselor. We attacked Iran by using both our carrier based planes and assets stationed in gulf states that made them targets for Iranian missiles . But, we had "obliterated" their capacity last June , did we not. Did not Trump announce that in almost those exact words with the emphasis on oblterated.

The Gulf states are giddy to get their product out, they never cared about the nuclear thing. With traffic bottled up for the last 3 months they were taking it in the shorts......on our behalf

Honestly, counselor your grasp of reality as to the facts is wanting. To constantly fall back onto the nuclear canard makes me think that LLM that you obtained may not be worth the paper that it was written on. You should ask for your money back....or at least an apology provided the school is till operating

Posted by Juan Betanzos
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2005
4272 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 6:10 pm to
The Left:

“Oil will be $200/bbl!” It’s at $80 and falling

“We will cause havoc in the Middle East due to this war!” G7 and Middle East leaders praising the US

“This illegal war will crash our economy!” DJIA went above 52,000 today for fist time in history

Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29822 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 6:11 pm to
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We spent months negotiating an MOU that is 1 1/2 pages long?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59778 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 6:13 pm to
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They were never worried about Iran's nuclear capability and truth be told


You think you have the pulse of the concerns of Iran’s neighbors? All evidence to the contrary of your ignorant speculative claim. They sure did jump at the chance to pay to eliminate Iran’s nuclear capabilities.

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We had the JCPOA which was ostensibly working until 2018 when Trump decided it was a bad deal and left it.


The same JCPOA Iran violated dozens of times?


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We created the current problem .....you know, the problem that started at the end of February, counselor.


spoken from a place of complete ignorance. Unless you’re talking about February 1979.

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But, we had "obliterated" their capacity last June , did we not


Clearly not. This may come as a surprise to you. Sometimes intelligence gets things wrong. And you have to adjust. Amazing that you can’t grasp that. Especially after all of the intelligence disasters the last 10 years.


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The Gulf states are giddy to get their product out, they never cared about the nuclear thing.


then why does anyone care about the nuclear thing. They can’t hit us. Who is scared? Dumb idiot.


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Honestly, counselor your grasp of reality as to the facts is wanting. To constantly fall back onto the nuclear canard makes me think that LLM that you obtained may not be worth the paper that it was written on. You should ask for your money back....or at least an apology provided the school is till operating


Typical liberal projection. And what does an LL.M. In taxation have to do with my understanding of geo-politics in the Middle East? fricking moron.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59778 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 6:17 pm to
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No. Trump lied (as usual)


K.

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The easy way to expose low IQ sycophantic people like you is to just apply the same logic you are trying to use for Trump to Obama or Biden.


A binary thinking moron shouldn’t call anyone low IQ. You’re a binary thinking, poorly educated, moron.


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I can assure you had Biden or Obama made such definitively clear statements like Trump did regarding operation midnight hammer you would not be saying they were ‘wrong’


Can I say Trump “evolved?” Dumb idiot.


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This ‘deal’ is laughable


You haven’t seen the deal. But if we don’t pay a dime and Iran is neutered from a nuclear standpoint, explain how it is laughable?….
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59778 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 6:17 pm to
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I'll believe that when I see it.


Well it would take congressional approval for us to send money. Can you link that approval?

Take a civics class.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
25468 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 6:22 pm to
It is all for nothing....IRAN will NOT hold up their end of ANY deal!
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29822 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 6:28 pm to
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CIA Director Ratcliffe, Sec of State Marco Rubio, and Hegseth warned Vance & Trump not to do the deal as Iran would not hold up its end of deal
Posted by IMSA_Fan
Member since Jul 2024
872 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 6:31 pm to
Is it “fake news” because the number is $300B?
Posted by Trapped in time
Member since Mar 2023
610 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 6:32 pm to
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It is all for nothing....IRAN will NOT hold up their end of ANY deal!


Neither will we
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33703 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 6:33 pm to
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Three sources familiar....


Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29822 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 6:33 pm to
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Is it “fake news” because the number is $300B?


I believe Trump is correct it is not $300 million but rather $300 billion.

And for Vance's next hat trick we will negotiate with China on Taiwan and part of that deal is Taiwan, Vietnam, and the South Korea become part of China in exchange for $1 trillion dollars.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42866 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 6:36 pm to
The meltdown over this is comical.

No one knows the details.
Posted by IMSA_Fan
Member since Jul 2024
872 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 6:36 pm to
So the neocons want more war?
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
2161 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 6:40 pm to
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The Gulf states are giddy to get their product out, they never cared about the nuclear thing


this statement really captures the essence of your TDS and the way you think.

no amount of logic is going to make it's way past and to someone who is capable of getting to this statement to support their position.
Posted by rtr72
Alabama
Member since Aug 2011
869 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 6:42 pm to
Your mad we bomb, your mad we made peace, WTF. What is must be like being these fricking sick.
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