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re: “There is a childcare crisis in this country”

Posted on 10/1/24 at 9:54 pm to
Posted by geauxturbo
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
4443 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 9:54 pm to
I worked two jobs and my wife stayed home. Child care.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
26316 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 9:54 pm to
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Do you have anger issues or something?


So I assume the answer is yes, while you waited on the daycare of your choice you were somehow able to battle through this “crisis” and survived virtually unscathed?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47573 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 9:55 pm to
childcare is only an issue because we've been taxed into permanent two-working parent households.
Posted by Chingon Ag
Member since Nov 2018
4124 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 9:55 pm to
I paid for daycare for my kids and I sure as hell don’t need to subsidize daycare for other people’s kids. Just like the Ukraine war and Iran, my taxes don’t need to go to that shite, either. Pretty sad to see how far we fallen in America when daycare is a talking point leading to a presidential election.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68412 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 9:56 pm to
Read "give me free shite"

That's what this boils down to. Eliminating personal responsibility to not have children you can't afford.

I know childcare is expensive, but it certainly hasn't reached a point where normal people can't find a solution. What Dems and some repubs want is for life to be easy for everyone and that's just never going to be the case
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
82339 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 9:57 pm to
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If not, what’s the fricking crisis?




If women left the labor market the men would earn twice as much allowing the women to stay home and raise the kids thus solving the crisis.

The crisis was created by leftists pushing women's liberation.

Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73455 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:00 pm to
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If not, what’s the fricking crisis?

it's expensive as shite. that's the crisis. There is a shortage of availability, so the providers can charge whatever the frick they want and they do
Posted by CHGAR
Haile, LA
Member since Aug 2022
1256 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:02 pm to
If you can't afford childcare, quit screwing. Your child is NOT my problem. Damn sure isn't my responsibility.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
26316 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:03 pm to
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it's expensive as shite. that's the crisis. There is a shortage of availability, so the providers can charge whatever the frick they want and they do


That’s a business opportunity. Govt adding money to the pot isn’t going to solve the cost problem, it’ll make it worse. Govt restricting what can be charged isn’t going to solve the supply issue. I’m going to open a daycare as a second career. Apparently it’s a blank check right now.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73455 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:03 pm to
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I raised two kids

yeah past tense. childcare in my area has doubled in the last 5-10 years. He doesn't just choose to pay 3 grand. My area, the cheapest fulltime daycare is going to run you $1500+/mo. Other areas are more expensive. And you can't just drive out to the country to take your kids to daycare. They're not a 24/7 service. They only open so early and people still have to get to work on time.
Posted by DrrTiger
Gulf of America
Member since Nov 2023
2544 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:04 pm to
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subsidizing childcare


No thanks.

My opinion on this is the same as student loans. You signed up for it, not me.
Posted by Oddibe
Close to some, further from others
Member since Sep 2015
6749 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:05 pm to
I would say we are a country that lives beyond or means. There is nothing wrong with a wife/husband staying home to take care of a family. One income families was the norm in the 40’s and 50’s, even into the 60’s.

Feminism took women away from their kids and put them into the work force. Instead of living in a 3bd 2 bath 1300sqft house the new thing was 3500sqft 4-bedroom house.

Nothing wrong with that if you can afford it without sacrificing your family values. Meaning taking care of your kids.
We put to much emphasis on bigger and better, when the most important thing is providing for family.

I personally think the 2-income family has been a detriment to society and families.

All this is about 2-parent households. The biggest problem is there are to many 1-parent households and I believe the government is also responsible for that problem.
Posted by AUJACK
Member since Sep 2020
1380 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:06 pm to
"There is a childcare crisis. I have to pay nearly $3,000 a month for early childcare. Lots of people these days can’t afford that especially when their groceries have doubled and their wages have been stagnant. I am not a proponent of govt intervention on many things but if we could take the money we’re throwing at foreign bullshite wars and dumbass social programs that promote trans acceptance and put it towards helping get parents back to work by subsidizing childcare, I support it."

There is not a child care crisis. You spend 36K a year for someone else to raise your kids for you and your spouse.

It appears you have a "My wife and I don't want to give up our stuff" to raise our children crisis. Why should hard working Americans subsidize the selfish choices you make? Take a pay cut and be responsible for your family. MAN UP!







Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
27376 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:07 pm to
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We subsidize and reward the most uneducated and least intelligent to reproduce.. then they neglect the children we paid them to have, and we foot the bill for that too


And then ask them to vote
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25189 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:07 pm to
I pay $3,500/month for daycare. This just isn’t feasible for many households.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73455 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:08 pm to
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That’s a business opportunity. Govt adding money to the pot isn’t going to solve the cost problem, it’ll make it worse. Govt restricting what can be charged isn’t going to solve the supply issue. I’m going to open a daycare as a second career. Apparently it’s a blank check right now.

I don't think the government needs to be subsidizing it, but to say there isn't a childcare crisis is intellectually dishonest. IMO it ultimately boils down to the economy. Previously, families could afford to have one parent stay at home so not as many people needed childcare. That's just not economically viable for many people anymore. Most families have to have both parents working to pay the bills. The number of providers has not caught up with demand, hence the crisis for so many young families.
Posted by SaturatedPhat
Member since Jul 2024
1180 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:09 pm to
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childcare crisis in this country


I thought they were referring to fatherless black households.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
26316 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:09 pm to
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yeah past tense. childcare in my area has doubled in the last 5-10 years. He doesn't just choose to pay 3 grand. My area, the cheapest fulltime daycare is going to run you $1500+/mo. Other areas are more expensive. And you can't just drive out to the country to take your kids to daycare. They're not a 24/7 service. They only open so early and people still have to get to work on time.


I offer you a compassionate “I’m sorry”. But the govt is not the solution to your perceived crisis. Their involvement will either make it more expensive (though you might no longer bare all the cost) or reduce supply..likely both.
Have you considered simplifying your life to the point that you can afford it more easily? Or maybe you will do what many do, realize this is a temporary part of your life that’s pretty expensive…maybe 5 or 6 years at most. Because I currently have the other end of this situation, college expenses for mine. It costs similar. There isn’t a crisis there either, it’s a choice. In fact it is a luxury much like 3 grand a month childcare for little Jaxon.
Posted by icheerforgeorgia
Member since Nov 2011
2010 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:10 pm to
It's insanely expensive to have children.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73455 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:11 pm to
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But the govt is not the solution to your perceived crisis

i'd like for you to point out to me in any of my posts where i have said the govt is the solution to the crisis. TIA

It's also not "my" perceived crisis. My kid is in childcare. We're fine. A lot of people aren't as fortunate,
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Have you considered simplifying your life to the point that you can afford it more easily?

do you ever get tired of this tired argument you make in every thread about economic issues?
This post was edited on 10/1/24 at 10:15 pm
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