re: There are pockets where public schools are doing well

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It's time to destroy the current education model. It's a huge waste of money considering the return.

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Start with the unions. They run cover for shitty teachers. Next change the propaganda taught in Universities.

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but I can’t tell you why.

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No baby, I can't tell you why-yyy! I can't tell you why!

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You've got cause and effect backwards

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Nope

I don't need to know anything about a good school specifically to know it's good or at least well above average

All I have to do to figure this out is to drive through the district and then park outside the school and wait for the Bell to ring.

The same goes for bad districts

Doing this as a first cut I will be right 98% of the time

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I don't need to know anything about a good school specifically to know it's good or at least well above average All I have to do to figure this out is to drive through the district and then park outside the school and wait for the Bell to ring.

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I agree. Real estate is the easiest eye test to determining where public schools likely excel.

“Good schools” is code for schools that lack a certain demographic. You either spend a lot money to live in a “good school” district or a lot of money on private school. It gets harder and harder as time goes on.

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Good schools” is code for schools that lack a certain demographic. You either spend a lot money to live in a “good school” district or a lot of money on private school. It gets harder and harder as time goes on.

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This is absolutely true in a general sense but there are obvious exceptions. Schools in the really poor rural areas of Eastern Kentucky being a great example. Those schools will be far more white fan the school my kids go to. In fact my kids go to a school that is a bit more diverse then it's results would predict. But that's mostly because it's still full of the children of engineers of various stripes.

But I've said on this board many times and it's just indisputable. If you are sending your child to a school that is majority black when you have the economic ability to avoid doing so it's a form of child abuse

This applies by the way regardless of what color your kid is.

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We’re just talking past each other at this point. We probably won’t agree. I’ll continue to believe African Americans can be educated. You can believe what you wish.

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African Americans most certainly can be.

Don't make a race issue where we're really talking about a pockets issue.

Dense pockets of poor performing parents beget dense pockets of poor performing students.

There are plenty of bright blacks in school with my children. That's why they're in school with my children. Their parents did what any white parent would do. They put them in a school in the right overall cultural environment. My kid's school could be 40% black with similar kids and still be super high performing.

Alas, the places in our nation that beget 50% black schools aren't full of black kids like the ones my kids go to school with. And, as I mentioned, there are plenty of highly rural places full of white kids who are damned hard to get to succeed also. So, while race is certainly correlated, it's not causative.

But, bottom line. No. Ghetto blacks, on the whole, cannot be educated. There will obviously be many individual exceptions. But, in terms of group statistics? No. They can't be. For all of the reasons I mentioned. I mean. Do YOU plan on kidnapping faculty and teachers to teach them? Because, otherwise, you've got a symbiotic relationship of hell that cannot be fixed.

And, while you decided to go with the thinly veiled race card...……….the reality is...……...the parents of the black kids in my children's school know it too.

They don't send their kids to the majority black schools in the are for the same reason I don't move to sub white trailer park shithole to send my kids to school.