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Posted on 9/19/18 at 9:22 pm to Speckhunter2012
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A very interesting fact that is ignored by the SJW historians and Smithsonian.
As far as I'm aware the DNA evidence rules out the Solutrean hypothesis. But I'm open to new evidence.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 9:24 pm to Clark14
quote:let's flesh that out, shall we?
in a land they were indigenous to.
Didn't they invade from Asia?
Posted on 9/19/18 at 9:25 pm to midsouthvol
Land belongs to whoever can keep it/pay for it. And to steal a phrase from Maverick, “They were on our land before we got here.”
Posted on 9/19/18 at 9:25 pm to Jorts R Us
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Or absorbed by them. Who knows?
Well there are some stories about certain groups exterminating whites. That sometimes goes with the giant talk someone else mentioned though. Other than that the farther east the native american branch settled in the more European they look.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 9:25 pm to 3nOut
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don't get me wrong. i have a lot of sympathy. the movie hostiles broke my heart last year. but when people play the sympathy card for native americans acting like they were sitting around smoking peace pipes and americans just came and stole their shite are simply gullible. America expanded, they responded.
A thousand times, this.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 9:26 pm to 3nOut
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GFY native americans. sorry your tribe lost. I have 0 animosity towards native americans, but you took the land from somebody else. stop using a shite argument.
Nooo way Duuuude...The Indians were really mellow folks that only helped others. They spent most of their time meditating and doing yoga and shhiitz.
They were really into songbirds and chipmunks too.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 9:27 pm to midsouthvol
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Could a bunch of tee pee building, buffalo chasing savages build the West?
I remember sitting around with my Dad years ago I was talking about how much work one of our tractors would do in a day. My dad said it was crazy to think that that tractor was here when the Indians were here but they just had not figured out how to mine it out of the ground and make it yet but it was here the whole time.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 9:31 pm to Clark14
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don't think the Indians were bothering anybody when they got invaded.
Who gives a flip flying frick?
The history of the world is of empire and conquest. We came here and settled a land while spreading the salvation of the word of God and his son Jesus Christ. We saved the souls of countless people and furthered both the Christian Church and western civilization. I don’t feel bad at all about it. That is what we were taught in school in the 70’s and 80’s. Kids have been pussfied since Clinton was president. They quit being taught that western civilization was superior to all others and that Christianity was to be spread world wide. That’s the problem now, kids were fricked up and taught wrong by piss poor democrats rebelling against Reagan in the 90’s and by a bunch of progressive idiots.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 9:31 pm to Clark14
quote:Because they couldn't. They lacked the tech and the knowledge of a larger world.
I was talking about how they weren't wandering the world conquering other worlds that they might discover.
What happened to the natives when they got firearms and horses? Did they continue on all in peace and harmony with nature as the myth of the native constantly suggest? No way they would use the tech to inflict greater suffering on their native enemies? No way.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 9:31 pm to Roaad
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Didn't they invade from Asia?
Who did they displace?
Here are the passages I was referring to earlier.
So they just give the Spaniards these giant bones of their ancestors and then the Spaniards move on. I want to find out more about those giant bones.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 9:32 pm to midsouthvol
Indians were killing and stealing land from each other long before the white man came. Every successful people ever has killed and raped and reaved for land and game and resources.
There are conquerers and the conquered in history.
Only conquerers live to write about it
There are conquerers and the conquered in history.
Only conquerers live to write about it
Posted on 9/19/18 at 9:34 pm to Clark14
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I was talking about how they weren't wandering the world conquering other worlds that they might discover.
Pay attention..
Uh Huh... Where did they come from?? Pay attention in deed.
This post was edited on 9/19/18 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 9/19/18 at 9:37 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:Displacement is unnecessary for an invasion.
Who did they displace?
quote:
in·va·sion
/in'vaZH?n/
-an incursion by a large number of people or things into a place or sphere of activity.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 9:39 pm to coonasswhodat
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First of, by referring to them as “savages”. Not very cool.
frick this self-righteous handwringing bullshite
Posted on 9/19/18 at 9:41 pm to Wtxtiger
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That is what we were taught in school in the 70’s and 80’s. Kids have been pussfied since Clinton was president. They quit being taught that western civilization was superior to all others and that Christianity was to be spread world wide. That’s the problem now, kids were fricked up and taught wrong by piss poor democrats rebelling against Reagan in the 90’s and by a bunch of progressive idiots
i agree with your sentiment entirely but Christianity/killing and conquering isn't exactly simpatico.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 9:42 pm to Roaad
They are almost certainly indigenous to the Americas then, even if they had Neolithic origins, as the Y-DNA markers of most of Amerindians are distinct from the population which is equivalent to the Siberian proto-population. Given the degree of sophistication of those civilizations, it's hard to argue they aren't indigenous, with the rather unique Y-DNA subsets, as they certainly didn't develop elsewhere, but rather took were near a geographic occurrence which allowed them to come into what was almost certainly unsettled land.
ETA: What I mean to say is that most of those Amerindians who moved southward and eastward had DNA markers distinct from the populations in Siberia, hence their development wasn't in Neolithic Asia, but the Americas outright.
ETA: What I mean to say is that most of those Amerindians who moved southward and eastward had DNA markers distinct from the populations in Siberia, hence their development wasn't in Neolithic Asia, but the Americas outright.
This post was edited on 9/19/18 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 9/19/18 at 9:43 pm to midsouthvol
Denish has a video talking about this on YouTube.
Blows up a proggie argument about this. I'll try to find it.
20 min video
Worth the watch
LINK
Blows up a proggie argument about this. I'll try to find it.
20 min video
Worth the watch
LINK
This post was edited on 9/19/18 at 9:46 pm
Posted on 9/19/18 at 9:46 pm to midsouthvol
The worst is the Mexican claims; you lost a war.
If that's stealing, than all land in history has been stolen.
And didn't you steal Mexico from the Aztecs.
Native Americans had no concept of land ownership - legally - and thought they were getting one over on the Americans. Selling something they didn't think could be sold.
And when they wanted land, they did it the old fashioned way - like everyone before them - they went o war with a neighborhing tribe and just took it. Their women too.
If that's stealing, than all land in history has been stolen.
And didn't you steal Mexico from the Aztecs.
Native Americans had no concept of land ownership - legally - and thought they were getting one over on the Americans. Selling something they didn't think could be sold.
And when they wanted land, they did it the old fashioned way - like everyone before them - they went o war with a neighborhing tribe and just took it. Their women too.
This post was edited on 9/19/18 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 9/19/18 at 9:46 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:So, to sum up your post:
They are almost certainly indigenous to the Americas then, even if they had Neolithic origins, as the Y-DNA markers of most of Amerindians are distinct from the population which is equivalent to the Siberian proto-population. Given the degree of sophistication of those civilizations, it's hard to argue they aren't indigenous, with the rather unique Y-DNA subsets, as they certainly didn't develop elsewhere, but rather took were near a geographic occurrence which allowed them to come into what was almost certainly unsettled land.
They invaded this region a long time ago.
Europeans invaded the region more recently.
Therefore, Europeans are evil.
Indians did not occur naturally here, they invaded from Asia.
Did they mutate adaptations to their environs? sure.
All the rest is trivia.
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