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re: The "white supremacist" question was dirty politics by Wallace
Posted on 9/30/20 at 9:37 am to TigerDoc
Posted on 9/30/20 at 9:37 am to TigerDoc
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The "white supremacist" question was dirty politics by Wallace
DHS thinks white supremacist terror is the most serious terror threat to the country at the moment.
which is bullshite that you and I both know is bullshite
"The documents are slightly different drafts of the same annual threat assessment, which is not yet published."
So are you a liar using draft copies that have not been published or are you too stupid to provide the direct link to the published report?
Posted on 9/30/20 at 9:38 am to Midget Death Squad
no it was a softball that trump should have used to end that narrative and denounce all supremacy and terror groups including the KKK, BLM, and Antifa. Then he should have talked about 2nd amendment rights and how he supports the right to carry.
It was a softball question that he could have used to end a narrative and could have flipped and asked Biden to denounce BLM and Antifa and other communist groups and put him on the run and on the record when it comes to gun control.
He fricked it up, stop blaming Wallace. Trump is not good at debates in that format, buts its mainly because he doesnt take coaching.
He has the issues, stick to them and hammer them home. It was not a hard question, Trump stuttered and tripped all over himself and missed a golden opportunity to knock the question out of the park, put joe on the defensive and to reiterate the facts about his record for black americans.
It was a softball question that he could have used to end a narrative and could have flipped and asked Biden to denounce BLM and Antifa and other communist groups and put him on the run and on the record when it comes to gun control.
He fricked it up, stop blaming Wallace. Trump is not good at debates in that format, buts its mainly because he doesnt take coaching.
He has the issues, stick to them and hammer them home. It was not a hard question, Trump stuttered and tripped all over himself and missed a golden opportunity to knock the question out of the park, put joe on the defensive and to reiterate the facts about his record for black americans.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 9:39 am to OMLandshark
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Why couldn’t he just say “I condemn white supremacists”? I mean seriously, what the frick? Both white supremacists and communists are bad. Could have lumped them both in as evil.
Agree. Better yet could have mentioned the “500B plan that specifically names KKK and ANTIFA as terrorist groups.”
Dude trips over his own dick.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 9:41 am to lsu777
quote:Did Trump even mention his platinum plan for blacks? It denounces KKK and antifa as terrorist organizations. All he had to say was that and the white supremacist BS would die down.
trump should have used to end that narrative and denounce all supremacy and terror groups including the KKK
Posted on 9/30/20 at 9:41 am to Midget Death Squad
This is where Trump could have knocked it out the park.
He should have said of course I condemn white supremacist groups. I condemn all racist groups and groups who set out to divide us racially.
But what’s going on in these Democrat controller cities is not white supremacists. Unfortunately we are seeing civilians banding together to protect life and property because the local Democrat government is failing to provide law and order. The Democrat authorities by their failure to do their constitutional duty have created a vacuum and lawlessness has lead to looting, rioting and even deaths. This vacuum is being filled by anarchists and good law abiding citizens who want to protect their property and their well being.
He should have said of course I condemn white supremacist groups. I condemn all racist groups and groups who set out to divide us racially.
But what’s going on in these Democrat controller cities is not white supremacists. Unfortunately we are seeing civilians banding together to protect life and property because the local Democrat government is failing to provide law and order. The Democrat authorities by their failure to do their constitutional duty have created a vacuum and lawlessness has lead to looting, rioting and even deaths. This vacuum is being filled by anarchists and good law abiding citizens who want to protect their property and their well being.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 9:45 am to The Mick
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Did Trump even mention his platinum plan for blacks? It denounces KKK and antifa as terrorist organizations. All he had to say was that and the white supremacist BS would die down.
nope, he didnt stick to the damn issues. If he does he kills Joe even more.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 9:46 am to doubleb
The problem is that white supremacy isn't the issue. Wallace and the left are trying to deflect. "Look Over There" bullshite. This is so far of topic. Any and all question in regards to civil unrest should be about Antifa and BLM...period.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 9:46 am to Clint Southwood
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All he had to say was, “yes I condemn white supremacy, so you Joe Biden condemn ANTIFA?”
And by doing so he calls all of those Trump supporting groups and militias "white supremacists" since Wallace lumped them all together. This is why he tried to separate these groups in his answer, but he did so awkwardly. That's a difficult thing to do in a debate with limited time like that.
We all know what he should've said. He tried to say just that, but he didn't do a good job of it. It's not easy to do in those situations when setup like that.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 9:47 am to gthog61
baw, it says all three drafts say roughly the same thing - that white supremacist terror is a serious threat, which yond baw was disputing.
Now, just stay surly.
Now, just stay surly.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 9:47 am to Midget Death Squad
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And by doing so he calls all of those Trump supporting groups and militias "white supremacists"
If they're true Trump supporters, you don't think they can understand the "dirty politics" and "gotcha" nature of the question?
Is your argument that they REALLY would get upset with Trump? And then they would do, what? Vote for Biden?
Posted on 9/30/20 at 9:48 am to Midget Death Squad
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And by doing so he calls all of those Trump supporting groups and militias "white supremacists" since Wallace lumped them all together. This is why he tried to separate these groups in his answer, but he did so awkwardly. That's a difficult thing to do in a debate with limited time like that.
no it doesn't....where the frick do you people come up with this bullshite.
How many fricking militias are there?
Jesus christ, yall are as bad as the other side that thinks white supremacists are the issue. DO you really think that militias are going to be the swing vote that wins the election????
WTF is wrong with yall????!!!!
Posted on 9/30/20 at 9:48 am to TriadTigers
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The problem is that white supremacy isn't the issue. Wallace and the left are trying to deflect. "Look Over There" bullshite. This is so far of topic. Any and all question in regards to civil unrest should be about Antifa and BLM...period.
But it was a great opportunity for Trump to day one, he’s not a racist and two, Democrats running these cities are not providing law and order.
It’s a softball question that you can answer and paint your opponent as enabling riots and chaos.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 9:49 am to SlowFlowPro
You're really on this this morning. Dogs whistling gives way to dog-calling, baw.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 9:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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If they're true Trump supporters, you don't think they can understand the "dirty politics" and "gotcha" nature of the question?
Is your argument that they REALLY would get upset with Trump? And then they would do, what? Vote for Biden?
I don't know, and I think it's a risk Trump doesn't want to take. I also think it's wrong to paint them as white supremacists when they are not. If Trump allows this characterization to happen, it opens up new floodgates to wrongfully destroy these groups of people. Trump tried to defend them, but did so awkwardly.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 9:50 am to lsu777
Why are you yelling and melting so hard this am?
Posted on 9/30/20 at 9:50 am to TigerDoc
Trump wasn't dog whistling. It was a bullshite question that he obviously didn't prepare for and answered terribly. It's not an either/or situation.
Trump got a "when did you stop beating your wife?" question and clearly wasn't prepared for it, even though it should have been obvious.
Trump got a "when did you stop beating your wife?" question and clearly wasn't prepared for it, even though it should have been obvious.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 9:50 am to TigerDoc
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You're really on this this morning. Dogs whistling gives way to dog-calling, baw.
Russia.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 9:52 am to SlowFlowPro
I wasn't saying he was whistling. You want him to whistle so he doesn't call, right?
Posted on 9/30/20 at 9:54 am to TigerDoc
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You want him to whistle so he doesn't call, right?
I want him to be a better politician, which means being dishonest a bit.
Kind of like how Joe Biden said he didn't support the Green New Deal when his campaign site refences his GND-like plan.
I will say that even with Trump fricking up this easy question, he still doesn't have the worst response.
Biden refused to answer if he'd support court packing. He straight up said he wouldn't give an answer. That's not even dishonest that's literally hiding in public view. How that isn't making more headlines is shocking.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 9:55 am to SDVTiger
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Why are you yelling and melting so hard this am?
because it sad that all my so called fellow conservatives are standing there acting like last night was a stellar showing by Trump.
Because Biden winning is terrible for our country and may in fact be the end of the country as we know it.
Because Biden winning kills people like myself right in the pocket book.
Because I hate to fricking lose!!!! and Trump blew chance after chance last night to hit a knock out shot.
Thats fricking why!!!
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